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NR can be a movie, feature?
E = not a movie, is a video is an exempted work under the Video Recordings Act if it is designed to inform, educate or instruct; is concerned with sport, religion or music?
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Funny that someone from Belgium reported the proper (?) ratings for the United Kingdom.  I wonder if the users from that locality agree with this initiative...
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Registered: March 18, 2007
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Quoting Giga Wizard:
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NR can be a movie, feature?

No. All video products that are not exempt MUST be rated by the BBFC. There is no distinct concept of "not rated" in the UK other than being exempt.
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Funny that someone from Belgium reported the proper (?) ratings for the United Kingdom.  I wonder if the users from that locality agree with this initiative...

I did think it a little odd, since UK users had already posted and clarified the UK ratings earlier in the thread. I guess it was useful to clear up the exemption thing though.
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Funny that someone from Belgium reported the proper (?) ratings for the United Kingdom.  I wonder if the users from that locality agree with this initiative...

The ratings are offical on the website, if you click on the icons the relevant text is there. The first explaining was not 100%. If you look at the 2 you see clearly the differences. I'm buying UK dvd's so why should I not have a contribution in that discussion, same as I contribute to these localities US, UK, Holland, Belgium, Germany, ... DVD Profiler is an International Program and not Limited to its locality where you live. I'm a world citizen, any problems with that.
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Funny that someone from Belgium reported the proper (?) ratings for the United Kingdom.  I wonder if the users from that locality agree with this initiative...

I did think it a little odd, since UK users had already posted and clarified the UK ratings earlier in the thread. I guess it was useful to clear up the exemption thing though.

It certainly was. I Found it also good to show the official logo's. Perhaps Ken could include those and from the other localities to. Did you notice the difference:
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U      Suitable for All Ages "1">
Uc    Suitable for All Ages "1">
and
    Suitable for pre-school children (-4)  (only used for video or DVD)
      Suitable for aged 4 and over

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PG    Parental Guidence  No Defined Age given
and
    Parental Guidence, should not disturb a child aged around 8 or older
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I'm a world citizen, any problems with that.

No, I don't. Why should I disagree with something which is a fact?
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I Found it also good to show the official logo's. Perhaps Ken could include those and from the other localities to.

The BBFC logos are copyrighted so I doubt Ken would be able to include them.
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Thailand passed a new ratings system back in December 2007 by the ruling government:

P - Promotional, film is educational and viewing is encouraged for all Thai people.
G - Suitable for general audiences.
Under 13 - Viewers under age 13 not admitted.
Under 15 - Viewers under age 15 not admitted.
Under 18 - Viewers under age 18 not admitted.
Under 20 - Viewers under age 20 not admitted.

For a great resource on ratings, I would recommend the wikipedia page on cinema ratings, which cover most countries.
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Registered: March 13, 2007
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Thailand passed a new ratings system back in December 2007 by the ruling government:

P - Promotional, film is educational and viewing is encouraged for all Thai people.

The one Thai disc in my library happened to have this new P rating:



(yes, it really is a photocopy onto generic label paper then applied to the sleeve... while the studio's emblem went to the trouble of using a holographic sticker.  )
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That P. is the initial of the person that approved the licensing of that Film/DVD and gave the order to issue the stamps for licensing No. 00014/48, it's not the rating. 

Some just put the initials, others sign it. I can provide several examples if you wish, as I have quite some thai DVDs. I have 2 signed by Mr. P as well, 1 signed by Mr. W and all others have full names/signatures.
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Wow, always learning something new!  Never would have guessed it's not the rating... and certainly otherwise would have incorrectly contributed it as such after the new ratings system came live (forbid they ever also have Mr G. signing off on these too!)
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I Found it also good to show the official logo's. Perhaps Ken could include those and from the other localities to.

The BBFC logos are copyrighted so I doubt Ken would be able to include them.

Yes, Indeed.:
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Copyright © BBFC 1998

Copyright and all intellectual property rights in any information and any graphics on this site or relating to it are vested in the BBFC and reserved. No part of the text or graphics on this site may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical or otherwise, including by photocopying, facsimile transmission, recording, re-keying or using any information storage and retrieval system without express written permission from the BBFC.

The BBFC grant permission solely for the individual reader’s personal use to access the pages and on a temporary basis only to download and store the content of any page or pages on a single computer.

Invelos could ask them, explaining the usage in DVD Profiler:
http://www.bbfc.co.uk/general/contact.php
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Registered: March 13, 2007
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<Locality Description="Germany" ID="5">

<Ratings Description="Film & Television">
<Rating Name="FSK 0" Description="Freigegeben ohne Altersbeschränkung" Age="0"/>
<Rating Name="FSK 6" Description="Freigegeben ab 6 Jahren" Age="6"/>
<Rating Name="FSK 12" Description="Freigegeben ab 12 Jahren" Age="12"/>
<Rating Name="FSK 16" Description="Freigegeben ab 16 Jahren" Age="16"/>
<Rating Name="FSK 18" Description="Freigegeben ab 18 Jahren" Age="18"/>
<Rating Name="KJ" Description="Keine Jugendfreigabe" Age="18"/>
<Rating Name="SPIO/JK KSJ" Description="SPIO/JK geprüft: keine schwere Jugendgefährdung" Age="18"/>
<Rating Name="SPIO/JK SU" Description="SPIO/JK geprüft: strafrechtlich unbedenklich" Age="18"/>
<Rating Name="INFO" Description="Infoprogramm gemäß §14 JuSchG" Age="0"/>
<Rating Name="LEHR" Description="Lehrprogramm gemäß §14 JuSchG" Age="0"/>
<Rating Name="Ungeprüft" Description="Ungeprüft" Age="-"/>
</Ratings>


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<Rating Name="SPIO/JK KSJ" Description="SPIO/JK geprüft: keine schwere Jugendgefährdung" Age="18"/>
<Rating Name="SPIO/JK SU" Description="SPIO/JK geprüft: strafrechtlich unbedenklich" Age="18"/>


These two are not ratings in Germany and shouldn't be included as such. Only the FSK can rate movies in Germany, so both "Ratings" above must be considered NR.

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<Rating Name="Ungeprüft" Description="Ungeprüft" Age="-"/>


This is also unnecessary. It's just the german translation of NR. Since both Adult and NR are already included as available options there is no need to include it another time.

Updated List:

<Locality Description="Germany" ID="5">

<Ratings Description="Film & Television">
<Rating Name="FSK 0" Description="Freigegeben ohne Altersbeschränkung" Age="0"/>
<Rating Name="FSK 6" Description="Freigegeben ab 6 Jahren" Age="6"/>
<Rating Name="FSK 12" Description="Freigegeben ab 12 Jahren" Age="12"/>
<Rating Name="FSK 16" Description="Freigegeben ab 16 Jahren" Age="16"/>
<Rating Name="FSK 18" Description="Freigegeben ab 18 Jahren" Age="18"/>
<Rating Name="KJ" Description="Keine Jugendfreigabe" Age="18"/>
<Rating Name="INFO" Description="Infoprogramm gemäß §14 JuSchG" Age="0"/>
<Rating Name="LEHR" Description="Lehrprogramm gemäß §14 JuSchG" Age="0"/>
</Ratings>
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These two are not ratings in Germany and shouldn't be included as such. Only the FSK can rate movies in Germany, so both "Ratings" above must be considered NR.


We have a special situation in germany and the SPIO-Ratings are important. In Germany movies without an approval from the FSK can be confiscated and the Publisher or the merchant could be prosecuted. The SPIO-"Ratings" give an advice that the movie is not against the criminal law even if it doesn't have a FSK approval.
We just discuss the ratings in the german Forum and it seems that Valen is the only one who don't want to include the SPIO-"Ratings".
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I bought Slither some time ago, it says 11 on the cover, on the plastic wrapping it had a sticker that said 15 (later corrected). VET's site says "incorrect rating fixed". So should i recontribute it with a wrong rating? Wouldnt that be against the whole reason why we have ratings in the first place?

The way i see it, its a similar case with the old ones.


An error in the VET's rating decision is a rare exception. I believe that Slither's current rating should be corrected to 15.

Currently you can't buy new DVD's with the old ratings but you probably have some DVDs bought 2000 and earlier. Those DVDs still have the old rating symbol printed on the case. That information is as valuable historical information as scans of the original covers, original SRP and release date.

If and when these new ratings in DVDP come effective, we all have the chance to use only the current ratings locally.


I wholeheartedly agree on this. The rules say that we should use the markings from the DVD cover. That alone requires us to use BOTH the old ratings and the new ones. For us to be able to go by the rules, the program should be adapted to allow that - especially as in this case, the inclusion of both the old and new ratings doesn't make the list all too long.

Any user who wants to use new ratings for DVD-releases published under the old ratings, should make use of e.g. tags for relevances between the classifications for his/her benefit. I am opposed to any use of new ratings for releases that have ratings of old classification printed on them, and also for any multiselection list for ratings (that user could use the old rating AND a new rating that he/she thinks is relevant to the old one.)
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