Quoting Daddy DVD:

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Quoting whispering:

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But i dont think the old rating system would be of much use. The new system replaced them. E.g. every K-16 movie has now the rating 15. So basicly a rating K-16 doesnt exist anymore. If we would use them, it would be an incorrect rating.

I do not know how the DVDs are rated in Finland, but if the ratings on the scans of the first releases show the logos of the old system (like the ones in my country), I do think it will be better to profile them with that system because it will lead to less confusion if they represent other age groups and/or meanings.

Yes but if a store sells them (dont know about used) they have to put the new sticker over the old rating. The new rating system replaced the old one, so its not a diffrent rating system per se.

I would have to say Martin is right on this one. Especially since the rules states to use the rating from the cover... and that original releases are not to be updated with re-release info. So yes... I do believe in such a case both sets of ratings should be in profiler. Looking at it from a rules point of view anyway.

Quoting Jykke:

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I make a correction to my previous list of ratings after I noticed that it would also be possible to include ratings before and after a change in laws.

Here it is:

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Link to current ratings

There is still question should we make a distinction between these ratings:
"Sallittu kaiken ikäisille" (For all ages)
and "Tarkastamaton, sallittu kaiken ikäisille" (Unclassified, for all ages)
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"Kielletty alle 18-vuotiailta" (Only for persons over 18 years)
and "Tarkastamaton, kielletty alle 18-vuotiailta" (Unclassified, only for persons over 18 years)

Please, opinions other Finnish users!

I will say NO to include old ratings.
Every movie has new rating even the cover has old one. Details in covers aren't always correct.   

Classified and Unclassified ratings for 3 and 18 is useful, here is say YES.
Can it be seen which one is used if I don't use long rating name?

I recommend this list in finnish releases:
(3) , [3] , (7) , (11) ,  (13) ,  (15) ,  (18) , [18]

DVDProfilers old NR and Adult ratings is not needed.

Quoting Ken Cole:

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Quoting Jykke:

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Ken, do you need the descriptions in English or can they be in the language of the locality?

Good question! They should be in the language of the locality.

Should or could be in the language of the locality?

Example: I prefer to use program in english. Movie is released in Finland => can I seen long rating name in english or finnish?
Or I'll purchase e.g. French release => can I see long rating name in english or french?

I just don't see how this is going to work.

Localization to program it self is quite simple. Basic english is translated to local language.

But now link between ratings is missing. So, do we need translations between all localities? Eng=>Fin, Fra=>Fin, Ger=>Fin, ..... and vice versa?

Or is the long rating name always in language of release country?

Quoting JaLe:

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I will say NO to include old ratings.
Every movie has new rating even the cover has old one. Details in covers aren't always correct.   

The old ratings should be included since that is what is on the cover.

And ratings are always taken from the cover And NR and ADULT must be retained.

Contribution rules
Rating 
Use the Rating shown on the DVD cover. When there is no rating, or an unrated version of the film on the disc, use the NR rating. Use the “Adult” rating for all Adult films.

Quoting pauls42:

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Quoting JaLe:

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I will say NO to include old ratings.

The old ratings should be included since that is what is on the cover.

And ratings are always taken from the cover And NR and ADULT must be retained.

Contribution rules
Rating 
Use the Rating shown on the DVD cover. When there is no rating, or an unrated version of the film on the disc, use the NR rating. Use the “Adult” rating for all Adult films.

OK, you are right. I'll change my vote to YES. Lets add old ratings also.

Quoting whispering:

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I bought Slither some time ago, it says 11 on the cover, on the plastic wrapping it had a sticker that said 15 (later corrected). VET's site says "incorrect rating fixed". So should i recontribute it with a wrong rating? Wouldnt that be against the whole reason why we have ratings in the first place?

The way i see it, its a similar case with the old ones.

An error in the VET's rating decision is a rare exception. I believe that Slither's current rating should be corrected to 15.

Currently you can't buy new DVD's with the old ratings but you probably have some DVDs bought 2000 and earlier. Those DVDs still have the old rating symbol printed on the case. That information is as valuable historical information as scans of the original covers, original SRP and release date.

If and when these new ratings in DVDP come effective, we all have the chance to use only the current ratings locally.

    Suitable for pre-school children (-4)  (only used for video or DVD)
      Suitable for aged 4 and over
    Parental Guidence, should not disturb a child aged around 8 or older

    aged 12 or over can go and see the film unaccompanied (films only)
    Suitable aged 12 or over, (only: videos, DVDs and games)
* 12A & 12: Children younger than 12 may see the film if they are accompanied by an adult (eg someone over the age of 18), who must watch the film with them.

    No-one under 15 is allowed to see a ‘15’ film at the cinema or buy/rent a ‘15’ rated DVD or video game. Parents are warned that ‘15’ rated works are not suitable for children under 15 years of age.

    No-one under 18 is allowed to see an ‘18’ film at the cinema or buy/rent an ‘18’ rated DVD or video game. No ‘18’ rated works are suitable for children.

    To be shown only in specially licensed cinemas, or supplied only in licensed sex shops, and to adults of not less than 18 years.
The ‘R18’ category is a special and legally restricted classification primarily for explicit works of consenting sex between adults. Films may only be shown to adults in specially licensed cinemas, and videos may be supplied to adults only in licensed sex shops. ‘R18’ videos may not be supplied by mail order.


<Locality Description="United Kingdom" ID="4">

<Ratings Description="Film">
<Rating Name="Uc" Description="Pre-school children" Age="1"/>
<Rating Name="U" Description="Aged 4 and over" Age="4"/>
<Rating Name="PG" Description="Parental Guidence" Age="8"/>
<Rating Name="12" Description="Aged 12 or over" Age="12"/>
<Rating Name="15" Description="No-one under 15" Age="15"/>
<Rating Name="18" Description="No-one under 18" Age="18"/>
<Rating Name="NR" Description="Not Rated" Age="18"/>
<Rating Name="R18" Description="R18 Restricted" Age="18"/>
</Ratings>

</Locality>

Quoting Giga Wizard:

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If I understand this correctly this is not the same as  NR (not rated)? and should this be an option in dvd profiler?
<Rating Name="E" Description="Exempted Work" Age="1"/>

The page you quoted pretty much answers your question. "E" is not an official rating, it just means it was not submitted to the BBFC for classification as it is exempt under the Video Recordings Act. It means exactly the same as "NR" and hence this is what should be used in DVD Profiler. A separate "E" rating would not serve any purpose.