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Need Storage Options for my Massively Growing Collection.
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Sunny
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Another reason is if they are downloading movies, not buying them in DVD form.

The investment in time to convert (in either direction) is a factor.
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I suspect they are doing it because they can and have not yet thought the issue through. For small collections it works Ok, but take for example someone like myself. My library to attemptto store it ona hard drive is currently running somewhere north of 50TB, that's terrabytes NOT gigabytes, it is neither cost effective, nor time effective. I don't see this being reasonable for some time to come.

1TB drives can be purchase today for about $250 and I would need 50 of them, that;s $12,500    just for the hard drives. That does not include building in any kind of RAID or other possible redundancies.

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Are Petabyte drives available for the home consumer yet??
A petabyte (derived from the SI prefix peta- ) is a unit of information or computer storage equal to one quadrillion bytes, or 1000 terabytes. It is commonly abbreviated PB. When used with byte multiples, the prefix may indicate a power of either 1000 or 1024, so the exact number may be either:

1,000,000,000,000,000 bytes — 10005, or 1015, or
1,125,899,906,842,624 bytes — 10245, or 250.
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this is my shelving. Half finished of course!



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Sunny
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OK -- Maybe my cyber-storage question needs its own thread.  I see the familiar closet-o-Movies and have this one tip to add:

For those who still own a lot of videotapes, and who have shelving that is adjustable, storing tapes with the ENDs showing, rather than the taller spine, makes it possible to stack more shelves vertically. 

I have a friend who has been collecting movies for a long time, and his walls are sort of full.  He has carpentry skills, and has made all his shelves himself. He re-adjusted the  heirghts of all his videotape shelves to fit more movies in.  You can still see from the ends what movie it is, and the tapes just stick out into the room a little more. (This won't work for DVDs unfortunately, as they don't have printing on the ends.)
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Sunny:

I suspect they are doing it because they can and have not yet thought the issue through. For small collections it works Ok, but take for example someone like myself. My library to attemptto store it ona hard drive is currently running somewhere north of 50TB, that's terrabytes NOT gigabytes, it is neither cost effective, nor time effective. I don't see this being reasonable for some time to come.

1TB drives can be purchase today for about $250 and I would need 50 of them, that;s $12,500    just for the hard drives. That does not include building in any kind of RAID or other possible redundancies.

Skip


Are Petabyte drives available for the home consumer yet??
A petabyte (derived from the SI prefix peta- ) is a unit of information or computer storage equal to one quadrillion bytes, or 1000 terabytes. It is commonly abbreviated PB. When used with byte multiples, the prefix may indicate a power of either 1000 or 1024, so the exact number may be either:

1,000,000,000,000,000 bytes — 10005, or 1015, or
1,125,899,906,842,624 bytes — 10245, or 250.


NOT that I know of, Terry. We are only at 1TB consumer drives right now so PB drives are a ways off yet.

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where do you people buy hard drives that your talking $250 to $300 for a Terabyte drive? You can get them for $170 and thats only a price looking at 2 stores (same drive, 32 MB cache samsung which i'm told the 750 GB version is very nice and its basically the same drive) Additionally, its cheaper to just buy two 750 gig drives (the one i mentioned early you can get for about $110 though pretty sure i've seen it for under $100). Mind you, its still not cheap to store a collection, but we are talking about 2/3 the price of your quotes. (closer to half if you go with the 750 GB drives, only drawback is you are now talking an extra drive per 3 TB)

on a side note, for those that just throw away the cases, I am currently looking for a few cases in the slim case variety to replace regular keep cases, see here

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For a small and growing collection, I go cheap (IKEA) and buy these...

BILLY

BENNO

LERBERG

The LERBERG are only $6.99 and you mount them vertically and they hold 40 DVDs, here is a great example found over at Blu-Ray Forums...

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They look very cool. I wonder if the uk ikea do them?
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Hmmm 52 linear feet= 4000titles on those Lerberg racks.

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They look very cool. I wonder if the uk ikea do them?


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Wow.  Had no Idea I'd get so much valuable information.... And in such a short time.  You guy's are GREAT!!!!!

Now, I think I like the guy's idea about calling General Steel.  It's probably the most logical solution since I'm sure my Wife is going to kick me out with all my movies if I start trying to put in a huge amount of shelving to show off the collection.

I sincerely appreciate everyones feedback and now I can go do some measuring and price crunching to figure out what will work best for my collection.

BTW.... Do you keep your Collection Alphabetized, or do you sort them some other way?  I'm going through my whole collection doing an Inventory and I'm trying to figure out the best way to put them all back   Part of me is thinking to group them by their Keep Cases and then Alphabetically since they will fit the nicest in the cabinet that way.

Thanks Again for the GREAT Feedback.
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I order my collection Alpha/Numerically in these quadtowers that I ordered through Target.com.



Here are some actual shots of my collection in the quadtowers and, as you can see, I'm in dire need of a third quadtower ...where to put it though .



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Respect to the great collectors around here. But without trying to hijack this discussion, I have to say I don't understand how can one push for a 3000+ disc collection (or 10000+ or whatever is the top number). I would question that you can like so many movies, so many series. You buy them to have them, not to like them. And in the end, you don't own your collection, it itself owns you. Racks and walls, and rooms, and attics, warehouses, etc. Who's winning here? You watching the movies or the dust on that 2482nd disc on the 13th shelf? Hmm.

Secondly some numbers need to be adjusted. 1TB HDD (now you know where I'm coming from) is in the range of $170 nowadays. A 5 to 10TB solution is not so difficult to design. And the way I see it, 'cause I'm spinning one like that, I can program random lists, combined series for every night, move movies around by genre, by another 123 criteria, have my own TV schedule for weeks without repeating anything. And it play instantaneously, with one click. BTW J.River Media Center user here.

So how is that compared to flipping discs... after you spend some time looking through that gargantuan collection of racks and walls, and rooms, full of cases?!
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Are Petabyte drives available for the home consumer yet??

No, we're still only at TB-drives - I think I read somewhere that Samsung will be launching , 1½ TB drive sometime before chrstmas...

But, if the discs continue to grow as they have in the last twenty years (roughly doubling in capacity every 1-1½ years), we will get Peta-drives in about ten years - and ExaByte-drives in 20 years - ZettaBytes in 30, YottaBytes in 40... Well, you'll get the idea...

The question is: WILL they continue growing at that rate? I doubt it. Already were seeing SSDs (Solid State Drives), causing the "space-race" to almost start over again. But I think that in ten years, mechanical drives as we know them today will be a remnant from the past. Outside SSDs, I read a few years ago that IBM was experimenting with organic "drives!"

Yes, organic! As far as I remember, they were able to store about 500 GB of data in 1 cubic-centimeter of matter. But it needed constant rewriting, as pulling the power would cause the data to be unreadable after a few minutes...

I believe it was Samsung that a few years back were experimenting with glass platters in mechanical disks. IIRC the achieved a datadensity so that you could store about a TeraByte on a single 3½" platter (todays TB-drives typically contains 4 or 5 platters).

If any of them are still investigating these things I don't know - But I do think that in ten years, we will have drives the same size as todays 3½" drives, capacities of 3-4 TeraBytes and NO mechanical parts in them! If it will be Solid State Drives or something completely different, I don't know...
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I would question that you can like so many movies, so many series. You buy them to have them, not to like them. And in the end, you don't own your collection, it itself owns you. Racks and walls, and rooms, and attics, warehouses, etc. Who's winning here? You watching the movies or the dust on that 2482nd disc on the 13th shelf? Hmm.


With all due respect...speak for yourself. You may not like so many movies in your collection but I love movies. Every film I purchased, I purchased because I either liked it or had high hopes for it. I'm not in it for any records or awards. I've watched every movie in my collection, many more than once. And how I spend my hard-earned income is of no concern to you or anyone else for that matter.

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Hmmm 52 linear feet= 4000titles on those Lerberg racks.

Skip


Notice Skip, I did say these are nice for small and growing collections, hardly practical for anyone over 500 titles really!!!  That said, for $69.99 you can store 400 titles if you have the wall space such as in the picture!!!  I think they are great if you are starting to collect Blu-Rays and HD-DVDs and you want to keep them separate which is what I do!!!
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