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Do submissions with 0 no votes get declined?
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTaro
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Some time ago I tried to the best of my ability to make a better scan of the covers of both Death Note movies (Japanese Blu-ray release), and submitted them.

Time passed and nobody voted on the submission, neither yes nor no and I notice both submissions get declined.

Is this the general rule, that a submission gets declined if nobody votes after a while? I'm still relatively new to this process so I would just like to know which rules apply in such instances.

Here are the submission I refer to, in case you wish to see:
http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=360980&PageNum=LAST
http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=360979&PageNum=LAST
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributordee1959jay
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No, there is no general rule that submissions without votes get declined.

In the case of cover scans, it is inevitable that there is some level of subjectiveness involved in deciding whether new scans are better than existing ones or not (depending on e.g. monitor calibration). A general recommendation is to state in your contribution notes in what way you consider the new scans to be better than the old ones. But you already did that. So it's hard to tell why your contributions got declined. It is not impossible that if you submit them again they might be approved.
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Contributions with no votes are not declined based on not getting votes.

As stated, updating images require a significant increase in quality in order to get approved. It is usually good in the case of submitting a slightly better scan to point out differences that can be seen.

I looked at one of the contributions, and the notes stated that the aspect ratio was being changed to 1.78:1, but in fact you were changing it to 1.85:1.

It seems like either the contribution or notes were in error. I would suggest you resubmit correcting either the notes or the aspect ratio and point out the specific improvements in your scan.

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OK, thanks all! I think it was due to my mistake in the aspect ratio. Not an easy task since the picture is 16:9 full screen and the back of the cover states only 16:9 but not an exact aspect ratio. I'm still not sure whether that means it's 1.85:1 or 1.78:1

Otherwise, I'll just leave the aspect ratio and resubmit the cover scans alone, as the text is now legible while in the previous scans (also done by me), it wasn't. Reflective covers give me a headache ...
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Not an easy task since the picture is 16:9 full screen and the back of the cover states only 16:9 but not an exact aspect ratio. I'm still not sure whether that means it's 1.85:1 or 1.78:1

Well, 16:9 equals 1.78:1. But it would be best not to rely on the cover, but on what you actually see on-screen. If you're looking at the picture in a software DVD player, it's fairly easy to see: 1.78:1 fills the widescreen window in it's entirety, while 1.85:1 still has tiny black bars on the top and bottom. On your television screen, these little black bars are likely to disappear in the TV's "overscan", meaning you wouldn't see the difference there. But again, if you're playing it on your computer, the difference is easy to spot.
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Not an easy task since the picture is 16:9 full screen and the back of the cover states only 16:9 but not an exact aspect ratio. I'm still not sure whether that means it's 1.85:1 or 1.78:1

Well, 16:9 equals 1.78:1. But it would be best not to rely on the cover, but on what you actually see on-screen. If you're looking at the picture in a software DVD player, it's fairly easy to see: 1.78:1 fills the widescreen window in it's entirety, while 1.85:1 still has tiny black bars on the top and bottom. On your television screen, these little black bars are likely to disappear in the TV's "overscan", meaning you wouldn't see the difference there. But again, if you're playing it on your computer, the difference is easy to spot.
That's the problem right there! I can only watch Blu's on my HDTV. My dad has a notebook with a Blu-ray drive, but there's no software installed to watch BD's. If there's a good free player available, I could install it and check on his notebook perhaps.
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That's the problem right there! I can only watch Blu's on my HDTV. My dad has a notebook with a Blu-ray drive, but there's no software installed to watch BD's. If there's a good free player available, I could install it and check on his notebook perhaps.

Ah! Well, in that case I'd stick with what the cover says, and enter the 16:9 as 1.78:1.
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My Korean Death Note DVD releases have 1.85 listed on the cover. But of course the Japanese Blu-ray may be different.


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Not an easy task since the picture is 16:9 full screen and the back of the cover states only 16:9 but not an exact aspect ratio. I'm still not sure whether that means it's 1.85:1 or 1.78:1

Well, 16:9 equals 1.78:1. But it would be best not to rely on the cover, but on what you actually see on-screen. If you're looking at the picture in a software DVD player, it's fairly easy to see: 1.78:1 fills the widescreen window in it's entirety, while 1.85:1 still has tiny black bars on the top and bottom. On your television screen, these little black bars are likely to disappear in the TV's "overscan", meaning you wouldn't see the difference there. But again, if you're playing it on your computer, the difference is easy to spot.


Not sure if my monitor is messed up, but I can still see tiny bars on 1.78 when I watch a dvd full screen. I can see they are slimmer than the 1.85 bars most of the time, but swear some discs are right in the middle and I can't call them. I do have a 16X9 monitor BTW.
On the other side, on my TV I can't see any bars on 1.78, but still see very slim bars on 1.85.
Anyone else get this?
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Not an easy task since the picture is 16:9 full screen and the back of the cover states only 16:9 but not an exact aspect ratio. I'm still not sure whether that means it's 1.85:1 or 1.78:1

Well, 16:9 equals 1.78:1. But it would be best not to rely on the cover, but on what you actually see on-screen. If you're looking at the picture in a software DVD player, it's fairly easy to see: 1.78:1 fills the widescreen window in it's entirety, while 1.85:1 still has tiny black bars on the top and bottom. On your television screen, these little black bars are likely to disappear in the TV's "overscan", meaning you wouldn't see the difference there. But again, if you're playing it on your computer, the difference is easy to spot.


Not sure if my monitor is messed up, but I can still see tiny bars on 1.78 when I watch a dvd full screen. I can see they are slimmer than the 1.85 bars most of the time, but swear some discs are right in the middle and I can't call them. I do have a 16X9 monitor BTW.
On the other side, on my TV I can't see any bars on 1.78, but still see very slim bars on 1.85.
Anyone else get this?

Your monitor is messed up if it really is 16 x 9.  However most widescreen computer monitors are 16 x 10 and therefore will have tiny black bars with 1.78 videos.
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xradman is quite right: true 16x9 PC monitors are quite rare. By far the most "widescreen" monitors are actually 16x10.
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That's the problem right there! I can only watch Blu's on my HDTV.

Well, that's the best  method there is! Turn of the overscan[1] and have a look. If there are no bars visible it is 1.78:0, end of discussion. If there are, break out the folding rule or the measuring tape. 

cya, Mithi

[1] If that's not possible, buy a new HDTV 
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