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Luis Guzman or Luis Guzmán
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributornorthbloke
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I was hoping this name had been done already, as he's been in bloody everything! But a search provided nothing 

So here we go, is the common name Luis Guzmán (186 titles) or Luis Guzman (141 titles)?

The current title lists, as you can see, are pretty much identical. It is possible he has the accent in some versions and not others, but not for all of them (I hope!)

Luis Guzman (29 confirmed, 22 pending)

anger management
beverly hills chihuahua
black rain
bone collector
boogie nights - confirmed
the brave
carlito's way - confirmed
carlito's way: rise to power
confidence
count of monte cristo
crocodile dundee 2 - confirmed
dinner for 5
disappearances
double whammy
dumb and dumberer
the equalizer
family business
fast food nation
fighting
guilty as sin
hard luck
the hard way
harold & kumar go to white castle - scenes deleted
homicide
innocent blood
john from cincinnati
law and order
lemony snicket - confirmed
the limey
magnolia
mcbain
miami vice
naked in new york
nothing like the holidays
nypd blue
out of sight
Oz
punch drunk love - confirmed
Q & A
salton sea
sam the man
school for scoundrels
seaquest dsv
snake eyes
still waiting
stonewall
the substitute
taking of pelham 123
traffic - confirmed
true believer
waiting
walker texas ranger
war - confirmed
welcome to collinwood

Luiz Guzman (1 title)

miami vice

Luis Guzmán (4 confirmed, 29 pending)

adventures of pluto nash
anger management
bad luck
black death
black rain
bone collector
boogie nights - wrong
the brave
carlito's way - wrong
carlito's way: rise to power
cleaner
confidence
count of monte cristo
cowboy way
crocodile dundee 2 - wrong
double whammy
dreamer
dumb and dumberer
equalizer
fast food nation
fighting
frasier
guilty as sin
hard luck
hard way
innocent blood
john from cincinnati
law & order
lemony snicket - wrong
limey
luckytown
magnolia
mcbain
miami vice
mr wonderful
nothing like the holidays
nypd blue
one tough cop
oz
punch drunk love - wrong
Q & A
rooftops
salton sea
school for scoundrels
short eyes
snake eyes
stonewall
substitute
table one
taking of pelham 123
thin air
traffic - wrong
true believer
waiting
walker texas ranger
war - wrong
welcome to collinwood


Titles in bold are right, titles in italics are wrong
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Registered: March 13, 2007
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I am sorry if this hijacks your thread... as I hope I am reading too much into it. but before Ken closed THIS THREAD he said...

Quoting Ken Cole:
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It's "Common Name" not "Correct Name" "Proper Name" "Given Name" "Favorite Name" or any other definition.  The CLT results determine the common name.  If incorrect entries are causing the results to skew, the results will shift when the corrections are made.  The CLT pulls from the Credited As field only, and not the common name.

If you spot a user who is submitting IMDB or other third party data in violation of their policies, be sure to vote it down and/or let us know via ticket.  If you note a user continuing to do this, open a ticket.  If we spot a pattern, they'll be permanently banned from contributions quickly.


See what I put in bold... With him saying that today... it sounds like he is wanting us to go strictly by the CLT until there is enough corrections done to change it.

Ken... if you see this... tell me I am reading too much into this... and threads like this to prove the CLT is wrong is still ok.
Pete
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributornorthbloke
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You're right, it can be read that way. I certainly hope Ken didn't intend to overrule his previous comment that if we can show the CLT to be wrong we can submit appropriately. I really don't like the idea of deliberately submitting wrong data simply because it agrees with the CLT. And I can see someone like Tim hitting the roof!
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boogie nights - LUIS GUZMAN
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAddicted2DVD
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Quoting northbloke:
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You're right, it can be read that way. I certainly hope Ken didn't intend to overrule his previous comment that if we can show the CLT to be wrong we can submit appropriately. I really don't like the idea of deliberately submitting wrong data simply because it agrees with the CLT. And I can see someone like Tim hitting the roof!


Yup... that is the problem... hopefully we can get Ken to clarify... as the way I read it... we would now go strictly by the CLT.
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Luis Guzman

Crocodile Dundee II (UK RC2)
Punch-Drunk Love (German RC2)
War (UK RC2)
 
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beverly hills chihuahua
black rain
carlito's way: rise to power

  Luis Guzman

The Miami Vice credit for Luiz Guzman is incorrect, it also is Luis Guzman.
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I think such threads are a good way to have a look again on some profiles and correct mistakes that are made. And the correcting will change the CLT, so that the common name gets correct. (hopefully)

But the results are as always a work of the users. So I'm always hoping as much users as possible work together.
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Quoting greyghost:
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The Miami Vice credit for Luiz Guzman is incorrect, it also is Luis Guzman.


Just watched this tonight and came here to post that.
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Innocent Blood - Luis Guzman as Morales.

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Quoting northbloke:
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I really don't like the idea of deliberately submitting wrong data simply because it agrees with the CLT.

I certainly won't ever resort to deliberately submitting wrong data, no. Sorry, just won't do it. If the common name is supposed to be the most-credited form, then I'll always do my best to use the most-credited form - not the form dictated by the batch of IMDb-data in our database.

Mr. Guzman is an interesting case, because the numbers are so close, but I believe the accentless form will win out eventually. Like with Zoë Saldana, though, things are being complicated because IMDb-mined data still regularly makes its way into the database, and even one incorrect IMDb-mined profile eliminates the CLT "weight" of fifty correct profiles for the same title. Anyway, here are some credits I can confirm:

Luis Guzmán:
- Confidence
- Frasier: The Tenth Season (ep. 'Enemy at the Gate')
- Pluto Nash

Luis Guzman:
- Family Business
- The Hard Way
- Miami Vice: Season Two (different roles in two eps. 'The Prodigal Son' and 'Free Verse')
- Out of Sight
- School for Scoundrels
- Welcome to Collinwood
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Magnolia - Luis Guzman (RC2 Netherlands)
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The Limey: Luis Guzman (checked on UK R2 disc)
Harold & Kumar Go To White Castle: not credited (checked on UK R2 disc, which is called Harold & Kumar Get The Munchies)
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Invelos Software, Inc. RepresentativeKen Cole
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Quoting Addicted2DVD:
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Ken... if you see this... tell me I am reading too much into this... and threads like this to prove the CLT is wrong is still ok.

Yes, you are.

I've clarified the post.

Ideally, the focus should be on making sure the Credited As field matches the credit.  If that's the case, then the CLT results will be correct - no matter what the common name is.
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Phew! 
Invelos Software, Inc. RepresentativeKen Cole
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And to emphasize my earlier point, if a user has submitted mined data, try PMing them and letting them know their mistake.  If they persist, please open a support ticket.  We received several reports yesterday and handed out several warnings.

In these cases, users will receive one warning.  If they persist, their account will be permanently banned from contributions and contribution voting.
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