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The fact that one user can tell another user to "go to hell" and the post remains speaks loud and clear as to what is acceptable behavior.

I should clarify... acceptable behavior for some users.

@CharlieM. Your post is part of the problem whether you want to admit it or not. When someone who defends himself against an unprovoked attack yet does so without attacking back is still lumped in with the attacker and in addition is called a child there is no hope.

I'll just come out and say what many have been tip-toeing around (even though we all know what is being said).
There is a problem here. The problem is one self righteous bully. His name is Maurice. He is involved in 99% of every fight and my guess is 100% of every locked thread. There is not one other member who falls into that category. The few times the bully has been banned things are better. People disagree but it remains civil. Like it or not that is a fact. Am I calling for him to be banned? It doesn't matter. That's not my call. IF someone asked if I felt the atmosphere here would be better without him I would have to answer yes. It has been proven more than once. Others have been banned as well but for the most part they weren't even missed during their absence as many of us take breaks from posting. But when someone who posts 16 times a day and at least half of them are arguments with someone stops posting it does make a difference.

I will also gladly suffer any consequences for stating what so many have just hinted towards. At least Invelos would be doing SOMETHING!

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OK, I'm done. I have wasted entirely to many hours reading this constant ongoing bashing and p---ing contest, just to read the occasional decent post. And I do mean occasional. I'll come back once in a while to see if things change...yeah, right. I will check my subscription threads and if I need help, I'll use a google search. Invelos should change the logo to "invelos" with a tag line "Babies R Us". There, now I'm no better than anyone else with all the negativity that gets thrown around.

On the positive side, there are several users who always try to put a positive spin on their posts, but even they have to waste a lot of time pleading with others to stop. Eventually we all get fed up and join in the fray. Good luck with that.


Bye-Bye!

                 

Soo long. Yet another one gone. but yet another one who see standing up to bullying as childish. So be it.

Perhaps if everyone who simply wants us all to "just get along" leaves Ken will have to actually do something with those of us who are left.

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OK, I'm done. I have wasted entirely to many hours reading this constant ongoing bashing and p---ing contest, just to read the occasional decent post. And I do mean occasional. I'll come back once in a while to see if things change...yeah, right. I will check my subscription threads and if I need help, I'll use a google search. Invelos should change the logo to "invelos" with a tag line "Babies R Us". There, now I'm no better than anyone else with all the negativity that gets thrown around.

On the positive side, there are several users who always try to put a positive spin on their posts, but even they have to waste a lot of time pleading with others to stop. Eventually we all get fed up and join in the fray. Good luck with that.

Bye-Bye!

                 

Soo long. Yet another one gone. but yet another one who see standing up to bullying as childish. So be it.

Perhaps if everyone who simply wants us all to "just get along" leaves Ken will have to actually do something with those of us who are left.

That's a joke, right Rick, in your hatred of me and your desperate desire to ban me, you have been a party to a user leaving, yet you will not accept your own responsibility for it. I am sorry to see reeder leave and I apologize to him for the part that I clearly played in his decision. But trying to claim me the bully is simply trying to not see your own bullying tactics and that of others like yourself. I am enbarrased for you, rick, absolutely a pathetic display.                 I also agree that there is childish behavior here, rick, go look in the mirror.

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Perhaps if everyone who simply wants us all to "just get along" leaves Ken will have to actually do something with those of us who are left.

I suspect that, being the good businessman that he is, Ken will let the winds blow out the flames, while he focuses on his revenue stream and his products.

I doubt that this Forum, and its regular participants really impact his business all that much. If it did, trust me, we would know. Whole threads would disappear without notice, users would disappear without notice, lots of things could happen - before he would let the Forum impact his cash flow. I mean, he could trash the whole thing and start over if needed.

This Forum is an accomodation by a very tolerant businessman. I think it is unwise for us to make negative commnents impuning his motives or actions. Just how much time do you we really want Ken to focus on this? IMHO - not much.