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Common name for Sean (P.) Gildea
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorT!M
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I'm looking for the common name for Farrelly Brothers' stock actor Sean (P.) Gildea. I already know the outcome - it's Sean P. Gildea - but as always, the huge batch of IMDb-mined data in our database makes it hard to see the truth - causing some users to incorrectly propagate "Sean Gildea" as the common name, which in turn prompted the need for this thread...

- http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0318392/
- http://ftvdb.bfi.org.uk/sift/individual/666823
- http://movies.nytimes.com/person/808985/Sean-P-Gildea

"Sean Gildea" is credited in the following 16 titles (154 profiles)
"Sean p. Gildea" is credited in the following 7 titles (117 profiles)

=> SEAN P. GILDEA (6 confirmed credits) <=
- Kingpin (confirmed by T!M)
- Me, Myself & Irene (confirmed by T!M)
- The Ringer (confirmed by T!M)
- Shallow Hal (confirmed by T!M)
- Stuck on You (confirmed by T!M)
- There's Something About Mary (confirmed by T!M)

SEAN GILDEA (4 confirmed credits)
- Dumb and Dumber (confirmed by huskersports)
- The Heartbreak Kid (confirmed by huskersports)
- Osmosis Jones (confirmed by T!M)
- Outside Providence (confirmed by huskersports)

There are no unconfirmed credits left in the database for this actor. With 6 to 4, the common name is Sean P. Gildea.
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Dumb and Dumber: Sean Gildea
Heartbreak Kid: Sean Gildea
Outside Providence: Sean Gildea

You were indeed correct.
My one wish for the DVD Profiler online database: Ban or remove the disc-level profiles of TV season sets. It completely screws up/inflates the CLT.
FACT: Imdb is WRONG 70% of the time! Misspelled cast, incomplete cast, wrong cast/crew roles. So for those who want DVD Profiler to be "as perfect as Imdb", good luck with that.
Stop adding UNIT crew! They're invalid credits. Stop it!
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorninehours
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Quoting T!M:
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but as always, the huge batch of IMDb-mined data in our database makes it hard to see the truth - causing some users to incorrectly propagate <snip> as the common name].

Yes, this is happening allot i have got to the point where i can't be bothered anymore and just hit the "Neutral" button. I used to leave comments like "Yes this is correct per CLT but there are the same film's listed under both names so can it be trusted" but they were always ignored 
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorT!M
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I used to leave comments like "Yes this is correct per CLT but there are the same film's listed under both names so can it be trusted" but they were always ignored 

I suggest you vote "no", explaining why, instead of "yes" with an added "but" note. Voting "no" automatically attracts a lot more attention, both from the contributors and the screeners, and as such, works a lot better, I've found. It's unfortunate that the messed-up CLT numbers often obscure the truth, but if it's wrong, it's wrong, in which case a "no"-vote really is entirely justified.

I do agree that it's become quite a lot of work since the burden of proof lies with the voter - this is a prime example of that: I've been using "Sean P. Gildea" as the common name for quite some time now, because I knew that was the most-credited form, but a pending contribution from someone propagating the incorrect common name citing the CLT numbers catapulted me into a (friendly!) PM discussion, and ultimately lead to creating this thread. Again, I knew the outcome all along, but this is about the only thing I could do to stop an incorrect common name being added to one of my profiles. Mind you: I really don't blame the contributor - it's an understandable mistake seeing that the CLT does report 16 vs. 7 titles in favour of in the incorrect, largely IMDb-mined common name. But it did result in me having to put quite a bit of time in, only to be able to keep an as credited "Sean P. Gildea" entry in one of my profiles from turning into an un-needed "Sean Gildea [Sean P. Gildea]" entry. I wasn't even trying to change anything here, but I still end up doing the work.

All in all, it's enough to cause a few deep sighs, but still: such incorrect changes, no matter how well the IMDb-mined data in the CLT seems to back it up at first sight, really should be voted down rather than be met with "yes, but..." and "neutral" votes.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorT!M
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Updated list:

SEAN P. GILDEA (6 confirmed credits)
- Kingpin (confirmed by T!M)
- Me, Myself & Irene (confirmed by T!M)
- The Ringer (confirmed by T!M)
- Shallow Hal (confirmed by T!M)
- Stuck on You (confirmed by T!M)
- There's Something About Mary (confirmed by T!M)

SEAN GILDEA (6 confirmed credits)
- Clear History (confirmed by T!M)
- Dumb and Dumber (confirmed by huskersports)
- Dumb and Dumber To (confirmed by ateo357)
- The Heartbreak Kid (confirmed by huskersports)
- Osmosis Jones (confirmed by T!M)
- Outside Providence (confirmed by huskersports)

That's a tie, in which case the larger number of profiles acts as the tiebreaker. With 176 vs. 143 profiles, Sean P. Gildea remains the common name.
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Dumb and Dumber To - Sean Gildea as Trucker's Pal - end credits.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorT!M
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SEAN GILDEA (7 titles, 7 confirmed)
- Clear History (confirmed by T!M)
- Curb Your Enthusiasm: The Complete Tenth Season (confirmed by T!M)
- Dumb and Dumber (confirmed by huskersports)
- Dumb and Dumber To (confirmed by ateo357)
- The Heartbreak Kid (confirmed by huskersports)
- Osmosis Jones (confirmed by T!M)
- Outside Providence (confirmed by huskersports)

SEAN P. GILDEA (6 titles, 6 confirmed)
- Kingpin (confirmed by T!M)
- Me, Myself & Irene (confirmed by T!M)
- The Ringer (confirmed by T!M)
- Shallow Hal (confirmed by T!M)
- Stuck on You (confirmed by T!M)
- There's Something About Mary (confirmed by T!M)

With 7 vs. 6 titles, the common name is now Sean Gildea.
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