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A word from him would avoid all those discussions.

If only it would.  Ken has already spoken on this--a long time ago--as you are well aware:

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Or... if "E" can equal "e" or "è" or "ê" or "é" then linking will be hopelessly broken,(...)

You're wrong! Linking would work exactly the same as before.

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I do not see your point.

My point is that Ken made a clarification and has apparently chosen to say no more about it.

That does not mean that he is unaware of your concerns.  It does not mean that he doesn't care about the data in the online database.

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Quoting surfeur51:

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If Ken thinks there is nothing to say because everything is clear, that means we are inside choice 2 : He prefers wrong data easy to contribute, than exact data asking a minimum of work (generally a google search  gives immediate results). A word from him would avoid all those discussions.

Right or wrong depends on your point of view.  I am willing to bet that most people, those that aren't familiar with French naming conventions, have no idea that Gerard Depardieu is 'wrong'.  I know I didn't, until you pointed it out.  Since they don't know, they have two choices...enter the name using the E = e standard, or research every name before they enter it.  I am sorry, but that isn't a minimum of work.

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Right or wrong depends on your point of view.  I am willing to bet that most people, those that aren't familiar with French naming conventions, have no idea that Gerard Depardieu is 'wrong'.  I know I didn't, until you pointed it out.  Since they don't know, they have two choices...enter the name using the E = e standard, or research every name before they enter it.  I am sorry, but that isn't a minimum of work.

I think the proposal that I sent in Contribution rules Committee gives an answer to this problem :

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"If the credit information, either actor/crew names or role names or both, uses all uppercase or lowercase fonts, convert the name and/or role name to mixed case. This conversion should be done in such a way as to preserve the proper spelling of the word/name in the native language of the text presented in that field or of that person.  Also, capitalization rules should match the native language of the text presented in that field or that person. Initial contributions by people unfamiliar with foreign languages spellings may not follow strictly this rule, but after data have been corrected by people familiar with the concerned language, they must not be changed."

I agree with Pete. I just sent this note to the rules committee regarding this topic.

The third paragraph, for those who have not joined the committee, is addressing the fact that the word "ignoring" in one language translated differently into English and was, therefore interpreted differently.


"I understand the rationale behind theses changes. But, the proposed ideas, in my opinion, are too complicated; a bit too "wordy" if you know what I mean.

Since this is a mulit-national user based program, any rule should be made as simplistic as possible to prevent misunderstanding.

For example, the discussion in this thread regarding the word "ignoring". What is clear and concise for one person means something totally different to another.

Ideally the solution should be simple, clear and free from interpretation."

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I don't know what it is... can't put my finger on it... but the last part of the sentence in bold don't gives me a feeling of slight confusion. I think it will be hard for some people... especially non-English speakers. Though not sure how to re-write it (brain seems to be asleep right now)... but it seems to me that...

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may not follow strictly this rule

...is just not quite right. That there is an easier to understand way of saying it.

I don't think I am saying this right... anyone else here know what I mean?

You are correct.  It is putting the emphasis on correct name usage, instead of base entry.  The base entry needs to be established in the rules first.

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Or... if "E" can equal "e" or "è" or "ê" or "é" then linking will be hopelessly broken,(...)

You're wrong! Linking would work exactly the same as before.

My point being that different people would enter it different ways rather than everyone entering it the same way.

Exactly as they enter it differently today.

I like the "E = e" clarification.

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