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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKluge
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I still believe that the glued on, first release, front artwork should be in the online database.


You believe, but that is not what rules say.


Please Yves, rules say nothing about this situation.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Kluge:

You have only documented that Amazon has your cover on file.The problem is that your undercover was also the Original rellease cover. However,  I will give you...this first in wins, if it is your cover that is already on file then the new Contribution should be voted NO and declined.There is no guarantee that Amazon nor any other source follows our Rules, their image may simply be that of the most recent one.But based on what I have gleaned from your comments in at least one case (store) theyreceived the same UPC with a special cove, which later became the general release. So,  I would say your cover should NOT be replaced, based upon your remarks.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantTheDarkKnight
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I still believe that the glued on, first release, front artwork should be in the online database.


You believe, but that is not what rules say.


The rules say nothing about this situation. The rules speak of a "slipcase of some kind" and that's all. Now we can start to argue what is covered under this and what is not but why? If this is your approach to this scenario then we have to remove all the scans from the glued on backcovers for the steelbooks and such. Is that what you want?
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Now we can start to argue what is covered under this and what is not but why?

People here want strict application of rules. Nothing about those stickers, so nothing to interpret. Rules say to scan cover or slip case, not stickers. Nobody can choose just what he wants to take in rules, even if the result is stupid, which is not the case here.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorbigdaddyhorse
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Well, we use those glued on paper "covers" for rear cover scans on steelbooks or similiar, so why wouldn't we use it for the front if that's how it was released originally? Look at the cover for "The Social Network", that front is just a piece of cardboard, not a slipcover, that goes over the digipack. I still believe that the glued on, first release, front artwork should be in the online database.


There is one big difference though, those paper covers are under the shrinkwrap and often glued to the steelbooks (with that same removable/reusable glue). They also contain specs and info, not just the same picture and feel like part of the package. Over the shrinkwrap makes it feel like it should be thrown out, and if this wasn't lenticular I probably would toss it.

It shouldn't be called a slipcover, I'd say faceplate sums it up (and was used on the Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake 2-disc dvd already). This is the second of these I recall on a new release in the US though, both by Fox. "Fox-plate" or face-plate should be the term, and clickable option like slipcover.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantTheDarkKnight
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There is one big difference though, those paper covers are under the shrinkwrap and often glued to the steelbooks (with that same removable/reusable glue). They also contain specs and info, not just the same picture and feel like part of the package. Over the shrinkwrap makes it feel like it should be thrown out, and if this wasn't lenticular I probably would toss it.

It shouldn't be called a slipcover, I'd say faceplate sums it up (and was used on the Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake 2-disc dvd already). This is the second of these I recall on a new release in the US though, both by Fox. "Fox-plate" or face-plate should be the term, and clickable option like slipcover.


Kluge never said it was over the shrink wrap, he said it was on the plastic sheet of the cover which I would consider under the shrink wrap basically glued onto the keep case and I would keep it and also scan it for my collection. To call it a faceplate sounds good to me.
I agree that the ones we find on the back of steelbooks contain important information but it doesn't change the fact that they are not covered by the rules either but we use them because they have this information on it.

@surfeur51  Do you need to bring this attitude of yours to every thread here?
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Invelos Software, Inc. RepresentativeKen Cole
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In this case the sticker is similar to a slip cover and so if it is the first release, that's the correct cover.  This is similar to many US versions I've seen where the back of the set is a flimsy piece of paper with a glob of temporary glue holding it on.  Those have the UPC, overview, info, etc. and are the correct back scan in those cases.  I personally dislike them as they have a habit of getting lost around my house.

It is incorrect to state that the first in wins - the first release wins, until we enable multi-cover support.
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Nice. 16-page thread averted. 

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Nice. 16-page thread averted. 



 
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Thanks very much for a needed clarification
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It would be far better to put that in the rules instead of hiding it in the forum. Next time someone will read rules and see nothing about stickers, he might give no votes that are not against rules as they are written.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorMithi
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In this case the sticker is similar to a slip cover and so if it is the first release, that's the correct cover.  This is similar to many US versions I've seen where the back of the set is a flimsy piece of paper with a glob of temporary glue holding it on.  Those have the UPC, overview, info, etc. and are the correct back scan in those cases.  I personally dislike them as they have a habit of getting lost around my house.

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... until we enable multi-cover support.

   
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until we enable multi-cover support.

I agree with Mithi on this, WANT +1

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This is similar to many US versions I've seen where the back of the set is a flimsy piece of paper with a glob of temporary glue holding it on.  Those have the UPC, overview, info, etc. and are the correct back scan in those cases.

Hi, I'm the contributor of the profile.

Just one problem... it is NOT the back of the case! So no UPC, no overview, no info on it. You are referring to a very different case, like Fox boxsets that have nothing under the paper.

Furthermore the sticker can easily be removed and almost all did it 'cause it is a mini-poster with humorous slogan "Vietato ai non-umani". The actual cover is what I scanned with the real italian movie slogan "Vietato agli umani". It reverse completely the sense of the slogan. The original one says "Forbidden to humans" as a sign made by aliens, the second one says "Forbidden to non-humans".
Normally no one likes stickers over the cover and who wants to scan a clean cover pull it out the case and scan it.
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the first release wins, until we enable multi-cover support.

Do I detect a hidden confirmation there? Yay! 

By the way, an interesting way of doing this for comics is ComicRack with the ComicVine scraper plugin: when you type in a title you get a window, with the data and the front cover. Under the front cover it states how many cover variants there are and forward/backward arrow to cycle through the various covers, so you can identify it's indeed that release you're after before downloading the data set. That seems like an interesting way to do it in DVDP as well
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKluge
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Furthermore the sticker can easily be removed and almost all did it 'cause it is a mini-poster with humorous slogan "Vietato ai non-umani". The actual cover is what I scanned with the real italian movie slogan "Vietato agli umani". It reverse completely the sense of the slogan. The original one says "Forbidden to humans" as a sign made by aliens, the second one says "Forbidden to non-humans".
Normally no one likes stickers over the cover and who wants to scan a clean cover pull it out the case and scan it.


Sorry but I'm afraid to remove the sticker, because it's well glued on the plastic.
Furthermore if we should connsider it as a slip cover, that is the cover that we have to contribute.
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