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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 13,199 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting mdnitoil: Quote:
Just to clarify though, according to your logic, 2.35:1 could be used as an edition. Thank god we haven't gotten that stupid yet, but it is an option. That is what we're saying, right? We can scrounge around anywhere on the packaging and pick out the text we find and call it an edition. Here is the rule: The Edition field is for distinguishing between DVDs, and for indicating special versions and collections (for example The Criterion Collection, Widescreen, Full-Screen Edition, Director's Cut). It's usually safe to use one of the built-in selections if appropriate. If you are using a non-standard description, take it from the DVD box, and ensure it will help distinguish between different releases of the same title.I suppose I could say that 2.35:1 isn't a description, and you could make some witty retort but, instead of playing this silly game, why don't you simply tell me how I have misinterpreted the rule. I mean, you must believe I have otherewise, what was the point? | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 1,777 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Quoting mdnitoil:
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Just to clarify though, according to your logic, 2.35:1 could be used as an edition. Thank god we haven't gotten that stupid yet, but it is an option. That is what we're saying, right? We can scrounge around anywhere on the packaging and pick out the text we find and call it an edition.
Here is the rule:
The Edition field is for distinguishing between DVDs, and for indicating special versions and collections (for example The Criterion Collection, Widescreen, Full-Screen Edition, Director's Cut). It's usually safe to use one of the built-in selections if appropriate. If you are using a non-standard description, take it from the DVD box, and ensure it will help distinguish between different releases of the same title.
I suppose I could say that 2.35:1 isn't a description, and you could make some witty retort but, instead of playing this silly game, why don't you simply tell me how I have misinterpreted the rule. I mean, you must believe I have otherewise, what was the point? I don't know if you misinterpreted the rule or not, just trying to clarify. I was under the impression that you were defending assigning a 2 Disc to the edition field if that verbage could be found anywhere on the box, no matter how inconsequential. If that is the case, then it would certainly seem a rule gone wrong as I attempted to illustrate. |
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | If I remember correctly, already the old pre rules guide lines stated that the purpose of the edition field is to differentiate between different releases of the same title. The requirement to use either one of the standard entries or take the text from the box came later, because people tend to disagree about the wording of non-standard entries. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting mdnitoil: Quote:
Just to clarify though, according to your logic, 2.35:1 could be used as an edition. Thank god we haven't gotten that stupid yet, but it is an option. That is what we're saying, right? We can scrounge around anywhere on the packaging and pick out the text we find and call it an edition. Yes, if 2.35:1 and 1.78:1 were the only text on the cover of two different releases of the same film which would allow to identify those, then I would agree that those would be valid editions. | | | | Last edited: by RHo |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,199 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting mdnitoil: Quote:
I don't know if you misinterpreted the rule or not, just trying to clarify. I was under the impression that you were defending assigning a 2 Disc to the edition field if that verbage could be found anywhere on the box, no matter how inconsequential. If that is the case, then it would certainly seem a rule gone wrong as I attempted to illustrate. I am not defending anything, I am simply stating how I read the rule. If 2-Disc is printed on the case, and that helps to distinguish between different releases of the same title, then, based on my reading of the rule, it is allowed. Whether or not it is a rule gone wrong, well, I really wasn't worried about that. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,199 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting RHo: Quote:
If I remember correctly, already the old pre rules guide lines stated that the purpose of the edition field is to differentiate between different releases of the same title. The requirement to use either one of the standard entries or take the text from the box came later, because people tend to disagree about the wording of non-standard entries. You are correct. The original guidelines read: The Desc. field is for distinguishing between DVDs, and for indicating special versions. It's usually safe to use one of the built-in selections if appropriate. Before you enter something that's not in the list, consider whether it will help distinguish between multiple versions of a given DVD.As you can see, taking it from the box, as well as the examples, were added afterwards. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Quoting mdnitoil:
Quote:
Just to clarify though, according to your logic, 2.35:1 could be used as an edition. Thank god we haven't gotten that stupid yet, but it is an option. That is what we're saying, right? We can scrounge around anywhere on the packaging and pick out the text we find and call it an edition.
Here is the rule:
The Edition field is for distinguishing between DVDs, and for indicating special versions and collections (for example The Criterion Collection, Widescreen, Full-Screen Edition, Director's Cut). It's usually safe to use one of the built-in selections if appropriate. If you are using a non-standard description, take it from the DVD box, and ensure it will help distinguish between different releases of the same title.
I suppose I could say that 2.35:1 isn't a description, and you could make some witty retort but, instead of playing this silly game, why don't you simply tell me how I have misinterpreted the rule. I mean, you must believe I have otherewise, what was the point? Because yoi think that you have the asbility to create an interpretation and call it correct while ignorung snything else which might actually help peple,thereby muddying the waters and setting the stage for page after page of insanity. Sorry, pal, watched it too many times | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,199 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Winston Smith: Quote:
Because yoi think that you have the asbility to create an interpretation and call it correct while ignorung snything else which might actually help peple,thereby muddying the waters and setting the stage for page after page of insanity. Sorry, pal, watched it too many times Please be so kind as to show me where my interpretation of the rule,as written, is wrong. I am not talking about your intent, just the actual rule. If you can show me how I have misrepresented what is written, I am happy to concede the point. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | I have explained it to you, Martian. I need go no further. but, as usual, you believe that you have the ability to determine the correct interpretation even though you were not involved in that section. There is no sense in wasting my breath, tim e or energy. i bow before the self=appointed Rule judge....NOT! | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: June 2, 2009 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 305 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Winston Smith: Quote:
Sorry, pal, watched it too many times Yeah, I and quite a few members in here also have watched something too many times.  |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 4,545 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Winston Smith: Quote:
you believe that you have the ability to determine the correct interpretation even though you were not involved in that section Intent means bupkis! You can't expect people to be mind readers. The rules must be able to be interpreted without any insider knowledge. Therefore any reasonable interpretation is as good as any other. If you want to argue based on what's actually in the rules, fine. But please spare us the "I was involved" argument. | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
Gunnar |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Please stop with the aggressive and frankly insulting posts, gunnar. I tried to offer you some assistance and advice and I get Bull in return, perfectly normal. I agree that the Rules should do this or that, but the fact is no Rule will ever be that clear to everyone and if you can't accept some input from someone who was intimately then please do me the favor of taking a long walk of a very short pier. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video | | | | Last edited: by Winston Smith |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,199 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Winston Smith: Quote:
I have explained it to you, Martian. I need go no further. but, as usual, you believe that you have the ability to determine the correct interpretation even though you were not involved in that section. There is no sense in wasting my breath, tim e or energy. i bow before the self=appointed Rule judge....NOT! So you can't show me where I have misinterpreted the rule then? | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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