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What would it take to "bring you back" to the database? |
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| Blair | Resistance is Futile! |
Registered: October 30, 2008 | Posts: 1,249 |
| Posted: | | | | (For the poll, choose the option that is most common for you. Mention your status in the topic. However, the poll is a secondary issue. I know that I left out an option for "I use and do both" but the poll isn't meant to be the focus of the topic anyway.) Several people regularly say things like, "I gave up on the database a long time ago." But while this statement is clear, it's always one or two posts among individual discussions of a single matter that gets lost within a dozen pages and in turn hundreds of topics. The purpose of this topic is to list (and describe if necessary) features/issues with the database (not the program) that you feel should be fixed/improved upon, putting all of them in one, confined space. I'm sure we all know the key ones having been discussed for years, but again, they are scattered all over the place. What is the difference in this topic and the ones in the Website Discussion forum or others in this one in general? Hopefully the guidelines below will make it clear and keep the topic on track: First and foremost, this is not a discussion or debate topic. Each person's points as to what why feel should be done are valid and indisputable since they are personal opinions. Post your view and read others views. Discussing these views can easily be done the other topics that already exist.Keep your opinions civil. This will hopefully help to eliminate the urge for someone to reply to your post as a defense.Be as clear and precise as possible. If your idea is a little vague such that it needs a little describing, by all means do so. If your idea is new and needs a lot of describing, you would be better off starting a new request topic and linking to it here.Point out database related issues only. No forum-specific issues, issues with particular members, or anything related to the program itself unless the request is directly connected to the database or vise versa (eg: preparing to submit to the database).I submit every once in a while and download from on a regular basis but only because I have a huge generic "wishlist" that I am not so concerned about matching exactly with my customized Owned collection. However, here are the things that I wish could happen: A slightly more decentralized database in regards to certain information (eg: cast list for a film downloaded from a single location so that changes only have to be made once instead of every copy in the database). There are deeper exception details, but that's the basic idea.Improved credit parsing system A "temporary changes" feature for the program to help with some submissions Separate re-release and alternate covers integrations A system for dealing with new situations that aren't covered well enough in the rules so that they are noticed and then will be handled the same way every time | | | If at first you don't succeed, skydiving isn't for you.
He who MUST get the last word in on a pointless, endless argument doesn't win. It makes him the bigger jerk. | | | Last edited: by Blair |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 762 |
| Posted: | | | | Blair, The option I'm missing is "I download from and contribute to the database", which would be my choice. However, it would not 'bring me back' to the database, as I am still very much 'at the database' My primary goal when it comes to contributing, is trying to improve the contents of the database. There are a few valuable (if not indispensable) tools that were written especially for the purpose of improving the database, namely the name variants plugin and the CLT+ tool, both of which were written by goodguy (who, as we all know, has left this community a while ago). I would love it if these add-ons were integrated into the main program. The first point on your wishlist, is also high on my wishlist. Ofcourse there are always issues that arise, such as localized cast for animated features, but there can be ways to enter that into the program. How about adding a check box for 'localized cast', which is linked to a locality? Every localized cast is actually part of the 'single movie profile', but you can select which localized cast you want to see. Another issue that I hope will be addressed very soon, is the Credit Lookup in regards to TV-series. Results from the CLT are very skewed, because of the many different parsings of titles used around the world. Season 1, Season One, Seizoen 1, Sesong 1, Saison 1 lead to five different titles, and the addition of child profiles (Season 1: Disc 1, etc.) lead to even more title variations for what is basically one title. Clearer contribution rules, with more listing of examples. At the moment, for me, the rules are very clear. But we have to adapt to the filmmakers and the people who design the credits. I noticed that a lot of the questions and frustrations on this forum are generated by the variations used on credit rolls. The rules may cover 99.999%, but people here are more confused about the missing 0.001%. I quite like the new credit parsing system. I already found out that downloading cast with a/b/c, that was in my database already as a//bc, automatically converted to a//bc. Which is good for my particular database, but it also means that people who have a/b/c, get a/b/c. A tremendous improvement. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 2,759 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting marcelb7: Quote: Blair,
The option I'm missing is "I download from and contribute to the database", which would be my choice. However, it would not 'bring me back' to the database, as I am still very much 'at the database' Seconded! But since I do not buy that many DVDs any more, both my up and download rate have decreased significantly. |
| Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,741 |
| Posted: | | | | I cannot contribute to your poll as I both download and contribute. | | | Marty - Registered July 10, 2004, User since 2002. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,774 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting mreeder50: Quote: I cannot contribute to your poll as I both download and contribute. Same here. "I download from and contribute to the database" |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,635 |
| Posted: | | | | I used to submit to the database frequently, prior to the switch to Invelos. Then, none of my submission credits transferred, and when I would argue a point on the contributions forum, I was told that my opinion means nothing because I had no submissions. So I no longer contribute. The stupidity and arrogance on the contribution forum are so offputting that now all of my scans and data are in my local only. I download the data from the database then improve my own as I choose, ignoring the jerks who see no overburned reds, overly high contrasts, unneeded sharpening and extreme lack of detail in the darks and lights. | | | If it wasn't for bad taste, I wouldn't have no taste at all.
Cliff | | | Last edited: by VibroCount |
| Registered: May 9, 2007 | Posts: 1,536 |
| Posted: | | | | Your poll does not address the people who download AND contribute, in particular not those who decided to totally ignore the forums. I wish Ken would give some statistics, but he never did so before... But I am sure this poll can only give a distorted picture by only inviting seriously dissatisfied people to react. Not that I am saying that everything is perfect, but I can and will live with it. | | | Hans | | | Last edited: by Staid S Barr |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 5,734 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting marcelb7: Quote: The option I'm missing is "I download from and contribute to the database" Yet another biased poll. And garrulous. | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 950 |
| Posted: | | | | I agree with the others. I download and contribute (maybe not a lot anymore, but I do as much as I have time for). | | | Lori |
| Registered: October 6, 2008 | Posts: 1,932 |
| Posted: | | | | ^ This.
Linking is a major issue for me. Every time I look I have new mis-matches--and I am somewhat cautious about downloads of updates.
All of the suggested improvements (except the last bullet, which I don't quite understand) would be welcomed by me. |
| | Blair | Resistance is Futile! |
Registered: October 30, 2008 | Posts: 1,249 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting marcelb7: Quote: Blair,
The option I'm missing is "I download from and contribute to the database", Yea.... I didn't realize that until just after I submitted, but you can't edit polls, so I had no choice but to keep it without the option. | | | If at first you don't succeed, skydiving isn't for you.
He who MUST get the last word in on a pointless, endless argument doesn't win. It makes him the bigger jerk. |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,819 |
| Posted: | | | | Personally, as someone who downloads and contributes to the database on a daily basis, I don't see a problem with this poll.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but I see this poll as a way of discovering what has driven people away from Profiler....and, by identifying the reasons, potentially bring people back.
I see only good in that result. |
| Registered: May 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,475 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Pantheon: Quote: Personally, as someone who downloads and contributes to the database on a daily basis, I don't see a problem with this poll.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but I see this poll as a way of discovering what has driven people away from Profiler....and, by identifying the reasons, potentially bring people back.
I see only good in that result. I agree. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,491 |
| Posted: | | | | Actually You missed one option on the Poll Blair ...
If I buy a New DVD ..
As I believe ( my self included) that buying DVD's ( or even Blu ray) is going to be a thing of the past with the abundance of Major store closures , and poor movies being produced today theatre attendance is also down ,-- Much down .... A lot of people are today turning to Downloading or streaming video's and collecting and storing Profiles are perhaps on the Wane ... ??
any truth here?? | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
Terry | | | Last edited: by widescreenforever |
| | Blair | Resistance is Futile! |
Registered: October 30, 2008 | Posts: 1,249 |
| Posted: | | | | Possibly, but the poll was actually intended to be secondary since the point of the topic is about something generally different. I created the poll only because I knew many people would vote rather than respond to what I had hoped would be a catalog of opinions.... showing which specific issues are the most frustrating to people and in turn the most prevalent to bringing those back who have stopped dealing with the database. | | | If at first you don't succeed, skydiving isn't for you.
He who MUST get the last word in on a pointless, endless argument doesn't win. It makes him the bigger jerk. |
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