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Yup, it's time for another common name thread!  Can anyone help me out with the rest of these?  I know based on my Gabby Hayes thread that not a lot of you guys have these old westerns, but a girl can hope, right?

Robert North Bradbury was a director of B-movie Westerns in the 20's and 30's.  He did a lot of early pictures with John Wayne, Tex Ritter and such.  The CLT is overwhelmingly for Robert N. Bradbury, but all the incorrect entries I've found have been for that variant. 

I've tried to sift out the movie titles from the CLT (Robert N. has 81 titles in the CLT, but only 28 of them seem unique).  He's credited for a lot of John Wayne collections, but many of those don't list the movies he's credited for. 

Robert N. Bradbury - 28 titles, 3 verified (12 eliminated)
- Between Men
- Call of the Wilderness
- The Gallant Fool
- God's Country and the Man
- Gunfighter
- Headin' for the Rio Grande
- Law of the West
- The Lucky Texan (director) (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
      - AKA Gold Strike River
- The Man from Hell's Edges
- No Man's Range
- Riders of Destiny (director) (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
- Riders of the Law
- Sitting Bull at the Spirit Lake Massacre
- Texas Buddies
- West of the Divide (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
- Where Trails Divide

- Blue Steel (INCORRECT)
- The Dawn Rider (INCORRECT)
- Hittin' the Trail (INCORRECT)
- The Lawless Frontier (INCORRECT)
- Lawless Range (INCORRECT)
      - AKA Highnoon in Helltown
- The Man from Utah (INCORRECT)
- Riders of Destiny (INCORRECT)
- The Star Packer (INCORRECT)
- Texas Terror (INCORRECT)
- The Trail Beyond (INCORRECT)
- Trouble in Texas (INCORRECT)
- Westward Ho (INCORRECT)


Robert Bradbury - 5 titles, 5 verified
- Blue Steel (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
      - AKA Stolen Goods
- The Lawless Frontier (story, screenwriter) (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
- The Lucky Texan (story, screenwriter) (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
- The Man from Utah (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
- The Trail Beyond (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)

R. N. Bradbury - 10 titles, 10 verified
- The Dawn Rider (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
      - AKA Cold Vengance
- Hittin' the Trail (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
- The Lawless Frontier (director) (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
- Lawless Range (VERIFIED BY DRAXEN)
- Rainbow Valley (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
- Riders of Destiny (story) (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
- The Star Packer (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
- Texas Terror (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
- Trouble in Texas (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
- Westward Ho (VERIFIED BY DRAXEN)

Robert North Bradbury - 2 titles, 0 verified
- Breed of the Border
- Forbidden Trails: The Rough Riders
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Confirmed:

Lawless Range: R. N. Bradbury (Directed by)
Westward Ho: R. N. Bradbury (Directed by)
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Thanks!
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Between Men (1935)@0:00:20
DIRECTED
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ROBERT N.
BRADBURY
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Call of the Wilderness (seems to also be known as Trailing the Killer): Not Credited (he's credited as Director for the profile in the system. The director is actually Herman C. Raymaker)
Law of the West: Robert N. Bradbury
The Man from Hell's Edges: Robert N. Bradbury
No Man's Range: Robert N. Bradbury
Texas Buddies: Robert N. Bradbury
Forbidden Trails: The Rough Riders: Robert N. Bradbury
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With the new verifications, we're at:
- R. N. Bradbury : 10 titles
- Robert N. Bradbury : 9 titles
- Robert Bradbury : 5 titles
- Robert North Bradbury : 0 titles

Robert N. Bradbury - 29 titles, 9 verified (13 eliminated)
- Between Men (VERIFIED BY AIAUSTRIA)
- Forbidden Trails: The Rough Riders (VERIFIED BY MERRIK)
- The Gallant Fool
- God's Country and the Man
- Gunfighter
- Headin' for the Rio Grande
- Law of the West (VERIFIED BY MERRIK)
- The Lucky Texan (director) (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
      - AKA Gold Strike River
- The Man from Hell's Edges (VERIFIED BY MERRIK)
- No Man's Range (VERIFIED BY MERRIK)
- Riders of Destiny (director) (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
- Riders of the Law
- Sitting Bull at the Spirit Lake Massacre
- Texas Buddies (VERIFIED BY MERRIK)
- West of the Divide (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
- Where Trails Divide

- Blue Steel (INCORRECT)
- Call of the Wilderness (INCORRECT)
      - AKA Trailing the Killer
- The Dawn Rider (INCORRECT)
- Hittin' the Trail (INCORRECT)
- The Lawless Frontier (INCORRECT)
- Lawless Range (INCORRECT)
      - AKA Highnoon in Helltown
- The Man from Utah (INCORRECT)
- Riders of Destiny (INCORRECT)
- The Star Packer (INCORRECT)
- Texas Terror (INCORRECT)
- The Trail Beyond (INCORRECT)
- Trouble in Texas (INCORRECT)
- Westward Ho (INCORRECT)


Robert Bradbury - 5 titles, 5 verified
- Blue Steel (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
      - AKA Stolen Goods
- The Lawless Frontier (story, screenwriter) (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
- The Lucky Texan (story, screenwriter) (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
- The Man from Utah (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
- The Trail Beyond (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)

R. N. Bradbury - 10 titles, 10 verified
- The Dawn Rider (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
      - AKA Cold Vengance
- Hittin' the Trail (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
- The Lawless Frontier (director) (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
- Lawless Range (VERIFIED BY DRAXEN)
- Rainbow Valley (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
- Riders of Destiny (story) (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
- The Star Packer (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
- Texas Terror (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
- Trouble in Texas (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
- Westward Ho (VERIFIED BY DRAXEN)

Robert North Bradbury - 2 titles, 0 verified, 1 eliminated
- Breed of the Border

INCORRECT
- Forbidden Trails: The Rough Riders
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The Rider of the Law@0:00:16
DIRECTED
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ROBERT N. BRADBURY
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With Sitting Bull at the Spirit Lake Massacre(1925)@0:00:23
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Gunfighter is an alias for The Dawn Rider and therefore invalid.
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And the remaining four titles are only pre-release profiles which can't be counted at all...

The Gallant Fool
God's Country and the Man
Headin' for the Rio Grande
Where Trails Divide

... gives us a perfect tie 
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And the totals now are:
- R. N. Bradbury : 10 titles
- Robert N. Bradbury : 10 titles
- Robert Bradbury : 5 titles
- Robert North Bradbury : 1 titles

Robert N. Bradbury
- The Gallant Fool
- God's Country and the Man
- Headin' for the Rio Grande
- Where Trails Divide

CORRECT - 10
- Between Men (VERIFIED BY AIAUSTRIA)
- Forbidden Trails: The Rough Riders (VERIFIED BY MERRIK)
- Law of the West (VERIFIED BY MERRIK)
- The Lucky Texan (director) (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
      - AKA Gold Strike River
- The Man from Hell's Edges (VERIFIED BY MERRIK)
- No Man's Range (VERIFIED BY MERRIK)
- The Rider of the Law (VERIFIED BY AIAUSTRIA)
- Riders of Destiny (director) (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
- Texas Buddies (VERIFIED BY MERRIK)
- West of the Divide (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)

INCORRECT
- Blue Steel
- Call of the Wilderness
      - AKA Trailing the Killer
- The Dawn Rider
      - AKA Gunfighter
- Hittin' the Trail
- The Lawless Frontier
- Lawless Range
      - AKA Highnoon in Helltown
- The Man from Utah
- Riders of Destiny
- Sitting Bull at the Spirit Lake Massacre
- The Star Packer
- Texas Terror
- The Trail Beyond
- Trouble in Texas
- Westward Ho


Robert Bradbury

CORRECT - 5
- Blue Steel (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
      - AKA Stolen Goods
- The Lawless Frontier (story, screenwriter) (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
- The Lucky Texan (story, screenwriter) (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
- The Man from Utah (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
- The Trail Beyond (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)

R. N. Bradbury

CORRECT - 10
- The Dawn Rider (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
      - AKA Cold Vengance
- Hittin' the Trail (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
- The Lawless Frontier (director) (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
- Lawless Range (VERIFIED BY DRAXEN)
- Rainbow Valley (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
- Riders of Destiny (story) (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
- The Star Packer (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
- Texas Terror (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
- Trouble in Texas (VERIFIED BY DANAE CASSANDRA)
- Westward Ho (VERIFIED BY DRAXEN)

Robert North Bradbury
- Breed of the Border

CORRECT - 1
- With Sitting Bull at the Spirit Lake Massacre (VERIFIED BY AIAUSTRIA)

INCORRECT
- Forbidden Trails: The Rough Riders
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A bit of Youtube research turns up the following credits (a lot of 30's B westerns are public domain, and available freely):

Robert N. Bradbury
Alias John Law
Calvary
Courageous Avenger
Danger Valley
Galloping Romeo
The Gun Ranger
Last of the Warrens
The Law Rides

R. N. Bradbury
Brand of Outlaws
Riders of the Rockies
Sing, Cowboy, Sing

This would indicate, at least to me, that Robert N. Bradbury is what he was most often credited as, since it would push Robert N. to 18 titles vs. R. N. at 13 titles.  However, I don't know that this sort of research would be rules compliant for determining common name, since I don't think any of these films are in the database.
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And the remaining four titles are only pre-release profiles which can't be counted at all...

The Gallant Fool
God's Country and the Man
Headin' for the Rio Grande
Where Trails Divide

... gives us a perfect tie 


No they're not. What brought you to that conclusion?

The Gallant Fool

God's Country and the Man

Headin' for the Rio Grande

Where Trails Divide

They're not pre-release, they're officially released, up for sale, available to purchase, and in our system, therefore can and should be counted towards deciding the common name here.
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And the remaining four titles are only pre-release profiles which can't be counted at all...


No they're not. What brought you to that conclusion?

They're not pre-release, they're officially released, up for sale, available to purchase, and in our system, therefore can and should be counted towards deciding the common name here.

Yes, they are released officially. But nobody set up a correct profile with DVDP. The profiles which are reflected by the CLT, are prerelease profiles fed with third party data (and since there are not even back covers nor any any cast, I'd assume really nobody own threse)...
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A bit of Youtube research turns up the following credits (a lot of 30's B westerns are public domain, and available freely):

This would indicate, at least to me, that Robert N. Bradbury is what he was most often credited as, since it would push Robert N. to 18 titles vs. R. N. at 13 titles.  However, I don't know that this sort of research would be rules compliant for determining common name, since I don't think any of these films are in the database.

This was the base, why I investigated into this. But unfortunately until the profiles exist, third party data is not allowed...

But as long as we can't find a common name, we still use the CLT. It might be blatantly wrong in detail, but overall it shows Robert N. with 111 titles ...
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And the remaining four titles are only pre-release profiles which can't be counted at all...


No they're not. What brought you to that conclusion?

They're not pre-release, they're officially released, up for sale, available to purchase, and in our system, therefore can and should be counted towards deciding the common name here.

Yes, they are released officially. But nobody set up a correct profile with DVDP. The profiles which are reflected by the CLT, are prerelease profiles fed with third party data (and since there are not even back covers nor any any cast, I'd assume really nobody own threse)...


Sorry, I'm not understanding you I don't think.

Correct, no one set up a correct profile as of this moment.

It doesn't matter if they were set up as pre-release, they no longer are. It doesn't matter when a profile was submitted or why it was submitted, if it's been released and is in the system because it exists, it's legit.

Whether or not they're fed with third party data doesn't matter. We would never use third party data to determine a common name anyway. There's plenty of third party data out there that reflects in the CLT, hence the reason for common name threads. These discs DO exist, and ARE in the system, so whatever info they have right now, we need to figure out if it's correct (the point of common name threads) to use that info to determine a common name.

You said in your original post that I quoted "which can't be counted at all". They can and should be counted because they're in the system and legitimately exist. This is where I'm confused. Just because they don't have the info in them right now doesn't mean they can't be counted. Of course they can and of course they should. We just need to figure out the correct info.

And honestly, I wouldn't assume no one owns these. It's obviously possible that none of the users of the system own these. But I've had profiles in my system for years (that I downloaded when I originally started using the program that don't even have any contributors listed for them) that I finally got around to updating years later. I owned the film for all those years, just never got around to filling in the profile. Not everyone who uses the program updates. Some use it just to track, plain and simple. So you never know! 
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