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Common Name of Visual Effects Supervisor Micheal J. McAlister
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The variants below are obtained via the Credit Lookup Tool;

Credited as Micheal J. McAlister (total of 9):

Abandon
Demolition Man (checked by me)
Die Hard 2: Die Harder (checked by me)
Howard the Duck (checked by Nick)
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (checked by me)
Orange County (checked by tweeter)
The Truman Show (checked by me)
Waterworld (checked by Kevin)
X-Men (checked by me)

Credited as Michael J. McAlister (total of 3):

Ali (checked by Giga)
Indiana Jones: Bonus Material (checked by me)
Thirteen Days

Credited as Micheal McAlister (total of 3):

Free Willy 2
The Goonies (checked by Pete)
Willow (checked by me)

Credited as Michael McAlister (total of 3):

Eragon (checked by alinoe)
Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer (checked by Pete)
Star Wars: Ewok Adventures


It has come to my attention that the letters 'e' and 'a' of his first name are commonly mistaken to be read as 'ae' instead of 'ea', which results in an incorrect common name. As of now his correct name seems to be the most credited form but I'm unable to check them all. If you own any of the unchecked movies, would you be so kind to check it for me and report it here so I can update the list? Thank you.
Martin Zuidervliet

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Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer - Michael McAlister
Goonies - Micheal McAlister
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Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions.
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Orange County: Micheal J. McAlister
Bad movie?  You're soaking in it!
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Martin:

You are going to hate me, but they could be two different people. I hope you have checked into that possibility.

Skip
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Eragon: Michael McAlister
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Howard the Duck: Micheal J. McAlister
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Waterworld: Micheal J. McAlister
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Waterworld: Micheal J. McAlister


Speaking of "Waterworld", will there ever be a Blu-Ray version?
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Free Willy 2: Micheal McAlister

Thirteen Days: Micheal J. McAlister
...James

"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan
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It's been almost a month and still all I see is an assumption that they are the same person, I see no documentation. Per Ken the Name Variantts are not to be trusted in and of themselves. This is at best a second tier actor, not a Helena Bonham Carter.

Skip
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Quoting Dr Pavlov:
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Per Ken the Name Variantts are not to be trusted in and of themselves.

Say what?!

Quoting Ken Cole:
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It is not necessary to document the source of the common name, outside the use of the CLT.

And also:
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Users who prefer more rigidly documented common names are free to enforce those rules on their local data.
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Quoting T!M:
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Quoting Dr Pavlov:
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Per Ken the Name Variantts are not to be trusted in and of themselves.

Say what?!

Quoting Ken Cole:
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It is not necessary to document the source of the common name, outside the use of the CLT.

And also:
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Users who prefer more rigidly documented common names are free to enforce those rules on their local data.


And just to quote the whole post, bolding by me-

Quoting Ken Cole:
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It is not necessary to document the source of the common name, outside the use of the CLT.  If there is a dispute over whether the credit references the same person, documentation may be necessary.  However, in most cases it is not required.

I have notified the evaluators to disregard general demands for specific documentation of common name outside the use of the CLT.

Users who prefer more rigidly documented common names are free to enforce those rules on their local data.


Skip merely raised the possibility that they could be two separate people. As the person in question isn't particularly well known, we don't know if Micheal and Micheal J are the same person.
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Yes, of course, "if there is a dispute over whether the credit references the same person", but there isn't a dispute. With that interpretation, you could argue that ANY use of common names still requires full documentation, which is clearly the exact opposite of what Ken said. Skip will ask his question EVERY SINGLE TIME: if we consider all of those "disputes", then Ken's ruling would be meaningless. But it's not. If you've got specific information showing something is wrong, then by all means, please go ahead and say so. But no more generally questioning everything without any basis at all. It's as Ken said: the users who tend to question everything, those that prefer more rigidly documented common names, are perfectly free to enforce those rules on their local data. They are, however, no longer allowed to force those personal standards onto the rest of us.

Skip didn't raise the possibility that they could be two different people: he merely questioned the fact without giving so much as a hint as to why he would feel this way. Again: that question can be asked for ANY common name usage. Now if someone comes up with a solid REASON, like being able to say: well, I've got a source that shows that they're different people, then we have a dispute, and further documentation is required. We've seen that in the Tennyson Sebastian-thread, for example. Merely questioning every common name usage without basis is not a dispute, and is exactly what Ken's ruling was meant to address.
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And you want to just automatically ASSUME that name variants are the same person. I don't and won't.

You also do not provide even BASIC support data suich as CLT results. You simply want to tell us YOU did the research and checked the CLT and then you arrogantly personally attack me when I vote No to your garbage, Tim. I told you a long time I would vote No to unsupported and undocumented data and I will Continue to do so because I do NOT accept assumptions.

As I see it, Tim, you are simply lazy and do not want to do the work to so that the work can be documented, you are happy to create  another database which is fill of inaccuracies and user-generated crap. I am sorry, Tim, I find your Notes to be utterly useless and your repeated attacks on me to be insulting and as I said you are certainly NOT deserving of your star, and I truly mean that

Allow me to also ask you the following question, Tim. ADR personnel are CREWMEMBERS and we do not enter them, yet you are trying to include them in at least one title as CAST. See My Blue heaven, follow the Rules, Tim.

Skip
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Outta here

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Quoting Dr Pavlov:
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you are certainly NOT deserving of your star, and I truly mean that

So basically, it's all just jealousy?     

I'm just following the rules. Always have, always will. I understand that's a new concept to you, but that's really all it is. Period.
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