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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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I'm not sure what point mixed serves.

Mixed would be used when some scenes are in b&w and some in colour like "The Wizard of Oz" and IMO "Schindlers List" (if I remember correctly the whole end credits with the cemetery scene is in colour).
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And not to throw a wrench into this, but you forgot tinted.  Ben-Hur has various scenes tinted different colors (blue, yellow, red) and a couple scenes in 2-strip Technicolor.  The opening to The Wizard of Oz count be called B&W, but in my mind it's more accurate to say it's tinted sepia.


I have to disagree with tinted. In the last century this was mainly done by chemical handling of the original roll, so it was the exception to the rule. Since the advances of computer colour processing just about every movie today is "tinted", rather than having the original colours from the film roll. Sometimes its use is documented or blatantly obvious, sometimes it's not. And when not, a lot of ping-ponging is to be expected. 
But every John Doe would probably call that movie simply a colour movie.

I equally have my doubts about mixed. Apart from the very incidental use of colour in Schindler's List, a lot of films use B&W inside a colour movie to suggest dream sequences or flashbacks. Yet just about everybody will indicate it B&W or colour according to the major part of the movie (and yes, there will always be exceptional cases...).

B&W and Colour is good enough for me. Anything beyond that may be tempting, but IMO it presents too much detail much like the current sound section in "crew" (no offence to audio/crew buffs, but...).
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I'm not sure what point mixed serves.  Is that for things that have B&W/tinted scenes mixed in with full color scenes (like Ben-Hur 1925) or for discs that have the B&W and colorized versions on the same disc?

I would imagine the former is what he meant. But also including things like Wizard of Oz, where parts are B&W, others are Color.

However, as mentioned in your second paragraph and the following post, it is a recipe for ping-pong. Many movies have flashback scenes in B&W, does that make them a "mixed" type film...? I wouldn't think so, somebody else will...
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hmmm, seems I didn't read Eric's post closely enough...)

Another example for a B&W movie with just splashes of color (as mentioned in your other post) would be Sin City... (B&W to me, and probably you, but Color to someone else...)
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In all honestly, I'd classify Schindler's List as B&W.  I know all about the red coat, but 99% of the movie is B&W and to call it anything else would simply be misleading.  In my opinion of course.



Roughly the same goes for Jacques Tati's "Jour de fête".
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In all honestly, I'd classify Schindler's List as B&W.  I know all about the red coat, but 99% of the movie is B&W and to call it anything else would simply be misleading.  In my opinion of course.

Roughly the same goes for Jacques Tati's "Jour de fête".

"Jour de fête" is a very good example why b&w, colour, and colourized are useful. This movie has been filmed parallel with two cameras in b&w and colour. The colour print was technically not satisfying to Tati so he has released the movie in b&w. Later it has been colorized. But today there is also the restored movie of the original colour version available. I'd like to know before buying which version is on the DVD.

EDIT: As I have learned now the colourization has been done by Tati himself before the release. Therefore there are only two versions: colourized and colour. (Wikipedia)
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Any idea what you would class 'Pleasantville' as?

B/W or colour?
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Any idea what you would class 'Pleasantville' as?

B/W or colour?



Color.  They are using color, or the lack of it, to tell part of the story.  Not the same as using B&W because that was all they had.
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Any idea what you would class 'Pleasantville' as?

B/W or colour?

mixed?
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I have to disagree with tinted. In the last century this was mainly done by chemical handling of the original roll, so it was the exception to the rule. Since the advances of computer colour processing just about every movie today is "tinted", rather than having the original colours from the film roll. Sometimes its use is documented or blatantly obvious, sometimes it's not. And when not, a lot of ping-ponging is to be expected. 


I was referring specifically to the tinting of old B&W movies.  Not modern day films like Amélie, O Brother Where Art Thou or The Matrix.  And I only brought it up because I've seen it requested in many past interations of this request.
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My only question is whether it should be color or colour?
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Sorry but you set your self up for that one.
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Indeed I did.
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