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Dutch names, how to handle them?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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I don't want to hear COMMON SENSE from this bunch any more from anybody, not as long as everybody refuses to display any. Also as I have noted Common Sense is purely subjective based on upbringing, personal environment and several other factors, in short your definition of what you believe is Common sense may not match mine or Tim's or anybody else, but to YOU it would be legitimate Common Sense.

Skip

IMHO "common sense" is the sense of this community - not your personal opinion or preference.

If I'm wrong with that, we should rename the database - then it's not a "user driven DVDP database" but "Skips personal database".

I'm quite disappointed, that you try to define your opinion as common sense and blame everyone who does not follow your preferences to be outside the common sense... 

Regards, AA


LOL, Ai, you will never see my personal database...but nice try

Skip
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@ AA: LOL, I know what you mean, but most of the necessary info is near the beginning. Good luck on those profiles.
I've also taken your suggestion and started a poll to see if we can come to a concensus about parsing unfamiliar names.
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What you CONSIDER is totally irrelevant. Maybe you nbeed to do some work OUTSIDE of your own narrow minded cultural view of names.


Then don't call it "Middle Name". Calling it Middle Name, you are referring to your own cultural view of names. 

Even the choice of *three* fields instead of two (or four!!) is the expression of a certain cultural view of names.


BTW, how would you parse Mary Jane H. Taylor, and why?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Based on the method that HAS BEEN established, Mary Jane H. Taylor. we can and have periodically had this ridiculous including users such as you attempting to what you are trying to do. God forbid we enocunter some of the possibilites from the Latin community Pedro Rodriguez Gonzales Gonzalez Rodriguez Gomez

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Billy Video
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... we came to the conclusion of using the default position unti proof is offered to the contrary...

There is no default position.
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Sure there is THREE FIELDS.         Get a clue, Rho.

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But I'll try to update the german profiles to Helena//Bonham Carter; I'll see what happens...

Three of my profiles (1 Switzerland, 1 Germany, 1 US) list Helena//Bonham Carter and only one (UK) shows Helen/Bonham/Carter.
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But I'll try to update the german profiles to Helena//Bonham Carter; I'll see what happens...

Three of my profiles (1 Switzerland, 1 Germany, 1 US) list Helena//Bonham Carter and only one (UK) shows Helen/Bonham/Carter.


Shocking! We really should know better over here... 
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Sure there is THREE FIELDS.         Get a clue, Rho.

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The fields are labelled "first name", "last name", and "middle name". Nowhere in the rules is word counting supported.
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Three of my profiles (1 Switzerland, 1 Germany, 1 US) list Helena//Bonham Carter and only one (UK) shows Helena/Bonham/Carter.

Shocking! We really should know better over here... 

This profiles cast list was last edited Apr 7 2005  at the old IVS site by a well known UK user who actually has supported Helena//Bonham Carter several times in this forum. I've corrected this small glitch now.
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(Never mind...)
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@ AA: LOL, I know what you mean, but most of the necessary info is near the beginning. Good luck on those profiles.
I've also taken your suggestion and started a poll to see if we can come to a concensus about parsing unfamiliar names.

Laughing is not really the feeling I'm in the mood for at this moment

Regards, AA
Complete list of Common Names  •  A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1)
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Bonham has been documented.

Where? - Can we move that on to "common name thread"?

As long as there is no name variant of this actress, there is no need for a common name. Different parsing of the same name can't be linked with the common name mechanism because the "credited as" field is a single field only. Documentation of "Helena//Bonham Carter" can be found is this forum as well as in the old IVS forum. Just type "Bonham" into the search field.
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Bonham has been documented.

Where? - Can we move that on to "common name thread"?

As long as there is no name variant of this actress, there is no need for a common name. Different parsing of the same name can't be linked with the common name mechanism because the "credited as" field is a single field only. Documentation of "Helena//Bonham Carter" can be found is this forum as well as in the old IVS forum. Just type "Bonham" into the search field.

I've to disagree - at least a little bit ;-)

When I double click on an actors name, I get a list of his/her apperances. An as long as we have two different parsings of her name, as long I don't get the full listing...

I agree, that this is not a case for "credited as" but it is a case for a "common name" in database thinking...

Regards, AA
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Yo! Jesus Christ, this topic is about how to handle DUTCH names, so please stop babbling about others.
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Yo! Jesus Christ, this topic is about how to handle DUTCH names, so please stop babbling about others.

Jesus Christ//... but I don't think it is a dutch name either. 
Andy

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