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Registered: April 3, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,998 |
| Posted: | | | | Simon Day (1962) Actor: The Fast Show, Swiss Toni, Run Fat Boy Run http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Day http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0206588/ http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/features/Dawn-of-a-new-Day.4624791.jp
Simon Day (????) Sound Crew: Jason and the Argonauts (2000), Rancid Aluminium http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/participant.jsp?spid=8620048&apid=0&category=filmography&action=more http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1725759/
Simon Day (1967) Actor: Red Dwarf "Holoship", Pie in the Sky "Lemon Twist" http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1861862/
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Registered: April 13, 2007 | Posts: 651 |
| Posted: | | | | Richard Taylor (1965) Art-department: Lord of the Rings, King Kong etc. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0853050/
Richard Taylor (19??) Sound Department: Six Feet Under, 24 etc http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0853051/
Documentation from Weta Workshop: http://g.imagehost.org/0774/taylor_BY.jpg (1965) Approved February 11, 2009 | | | "What's God?" "You know when you want something really bad and you wish for it?, God's the guy that ignores you" -The Island, Steve Buscemi |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,361 |
| Posted: | | | | Adding BY to Tony Martin (1953) Australian Actor http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0553150/ Adding BY to Tony Martin (1964) New Zealand Comedian / Actor / Director / Radio Host. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0553151/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Martin_(comedian) http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/world/born-today/2008/06/09/1212863518631.html?s_cid=rss_world Adding BY to Tony Martin (1912) American Actor/Singer http://www.oldies.com/artist-biography/Tony-Martin.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Martin_(entertainer) http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0553149/ http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/participant.jsp?participantId=123655|148580&afiPersonalNameId=null Approved and released. |
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 8,724 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Kluge: Quote: Ken Ralston 29 titles (47 profiles) Kenneth Ralston 1 titles (3 profiles)
Ken ralston Visual Effects (born in 1954): http://www.imageworks.com/company/bios/kralston.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Ralston http://www.filmreference.com/Writers-and-Production-Artists-Po-Ro/Ralston-Ken.html
Ken Ralston (aka Kenny, but common name Ken) Sound Department (born in 1979) http://www.phonomorphics.co.uk/cv.html Is this really necessary? "Sound Guy" Kenny Ralston hardly ever seems to be credited as Ken - his CV you link to only mentions "Kenny", and IMDb (I know one source is not enough, but just as a quick reference it's interesting to look at) doesn't show a SINGLE actual "Ken" credit for him: all Kenny. So if the visual effects guy is always credited as "Ken" or "Kenneth", and the sound guy is mostly, or even exclusively credited as "Kenny", then no birth years are necessary. |
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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Registered: April 17, 2007 | Posts: 771 |
| Posted: | | | | Alfred Hitchcock (1899)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000033/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Hitchcock http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/participant.jsp?participantId=87065|10493&afiPersonalNameId=null http://ftvdb.bfi.org.uk/sift/individual/153 http://uk.rottentomatoes.com/celebrity/alfred_hitchcock/ http://www.nndb.com/people/664/000026586/
The other one played in "Love, Cheat and Steal"
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Registered: August 4, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,437 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote: Quoting Kluge:
Quote: Ken Ralston 29 titles (47 profiles) Kenneth Ralston 1 titles (3 profiles)
Ken Ralston Visual Effects (born in 1954): http://www.imageworks.com/company/bios/kralston.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Ralston http://www.filmreference.com/Writers-and-Production-Artists-Po-Ro/Ralston-Ken.html
Ken Ralston (aka Kenny, but common name Ken) Sound Department (born in 1979) http://www.phonomorphics.co.uk/cv.html Is this really necessary? "Sound Guy" Kenny Ralston hardly ever seems to be credited as Ken - his CV you link to only mentions "Kenny", and IMDb (I know one source is not enough, but just as a quick reference it's interesting to look at) doesn't show a SINGLE actual "Ken" credit for him: all Kenny. So if the visual effects guy is always credited as "Ken" or "Kenneth", and the sound guy is mostly, or even exclusively credited as "Kenny", then no birth years are necessary. The only credit that I have found for Ken Ralston (aka Kenny) Sound Department (born in 1979) is for the film "Fragile - A Ghost Story" UPC 8-716777-058305 and others, and he is credited as Ken (by invelos credit lookup, there are no credits for Kenny). | | | Updated List of Accepted Birth Years |
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 8,724 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Kluge: Quote: The only credit that I have found for Ken Ralston (aka Kenny) Sound Department (born in 1979) is for the film "Fragile - A Ghost Story" UPC 8-716777-058305 and others, and he is credited as Ken (by invelos credit lookup, there are no credits for Kenny). Now if only we could someone that actually OWNS a copy of 'Fragile'... You're right in that the CLT lists him there as "Ken", but IMDb says he's credited as "Kenny" there. They may well be wrong, of course, but one would think that that "(as Kenny Ralston)" addendum came from somewhere. So the question is: are the credits in the Invelos database ACTUAL, "as credited" entries, or merely IMDb-mined ones, using their common name, being "Ken"? I looked at a few of these profiles, and they do look like they could contain IMDb-mined data: I don't see any use of "credited as" (which would be a sure sign that someone actually did something with the cast/crew data recently) and I see multiple names with different kinds of accents, which CAN happen, but actual film credits tend to miss one occasionally. Again, all circumstantial, but... If it's really "Ken", then you're right. If it's actually "Kenny", then we don't need a birth year for the visual effects guy. Bottom line: who owns a copy of 'Fragile - A Ghost Story' and is willing to check on this credit? | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,582 |
| Posted: | | | | Fragile: A Ghost Story U.K. Sound Assistant Kenny Ralston I've just done an audit on the Australian Profile, UPC 9316797422569, and that's how he appears in the credits. | | | In the end; Winning is the only safety. Kerr Avon Blakes 7 Series 4, Ep. Blake. |
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting Sidrat: Quote: Fragile: A Ghost Story U.K. Sound Assistant Kenny Ralston
I've just done an audit on the Australian Profile, UPC 9316797422569, and that's how he appears in the credits. There we go - thanks!! It is then very, very likely that the other 'Fragile' DVD's show him as "Kenny" as well, meaning that there is no "Ken" credit for the sound guy in the database whatsoever (better yet: as of yet it doesn't seem that one even exists anywhere), which in turn means that we don't need a birth year for visual effects guy Ken Ralston. | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote: Quoting Sidrat:
Quote: Fragile: A Ghost Story U.K. Sound Assistant Kenny Ralston
I've just done an audit on the Australian Profile, UPC 9316797422569, and that's how he appears in the credits. There we go - thanks!! It is then very, very likely that the other 'Fragile' DVD's show him as "Kenny" as well, meaning that there is no "Ken" credit for the sound guy in the database whatsoever (better yet: as of yet it doesn't seem that one even exists anywhere), which in turn means that we don't need a birth year for visual effects guy Ken Ralston. He doesn't get a credit for this film anyway as he's only a Sound Assistant. | | | In the end; Winning is the only safety. Kerr Avon Blakes 7 Series 4, Ep. Blake. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 4,596 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting hallo-marvin: Quote: Alfred Hitchcock (1899)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000033/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Hitchcock http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/participant.jsp?participantId=87065|10493&afiPersonalNameId=null http://ftvdb.bfi.org.uk/sift/individual/153 http://uk.rottentomatoes.com/celebrity/alfred_hitchcock/ http://www.nndb.com/people/664/000026586/
The other one played in "Love, Cheat and Steal"
Approved and accepted Why was this even submitted? Do you perchance own the title "Love, Cheat and Steal"? It's not even in the Invelos Database. Why submit unnecessary data? | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
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Registered: April 17, 2007 | Posts: 771 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting 8ballMax: Quote: Quoting hallo-marvin:
Quote: Alfred Hitchcock (1899)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000033/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Hitchcock http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/participant.jsp?participantId=87065|10493&afiPersonalNameId=null http://ftvdb.bfi.org.uk/sift/individual/153 http://uk.rottentomatoes.com/celebrity/alfred_hitchcock/ http://www.nndb.com/people/664/000026586/
The other one played in "Love, Cheat and Steal"
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Why was this even submitted? Do you perchance own the title "Love, Cheat and Steal"? It's not even in the Invelos Database. Why submit unnecessary data? I have a TV copy of this movie and verified there is actually an actor credited as Alfred Hitchcock. I submitted this to seperate that actor from Sir Alfred Hitchcock. | | | | | | Last edited: by hallo-marvin |
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting Sidrat: Quote: He doesn't get a credit for this film anyway as he's only a Sound Assistant. Even better: so if all affected profiles are corrected, we only have ONE "Ken Ralston" in the database. Without a birth year, obviously. |
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting hallo-marvin: Quote: I have a TV copy of this movie and verified there is actually an actor credited as Alfred Hitchcock. I submitted this to seperate that actor from Sir Alfred Hitchcock. But all the "Alfred Hitchcock" entries in the Invelos database all refer to one and the same person? Then I'm afraid we don't need a birth year in the master database. If 'Love, Cheat and Steal' is ever released on DVD, we'll talk again... Seriously though: if we're going to take TV copies into account, then we might as well start attaching birth years to everyone. Similarly, someone could be using the custom crew credits to enter FULL crew lists, including best boys, carpenters and caterers, and then report that that caused the need for a slew of additional "necessary" birth years (if you go to that level, you'll find namesakes for virtually everyone). We just don't do that. The key question is: are there two people with the exact same (common) name in Invelos' database? If not, then we cannot use a birth year. |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting hallo-marvin: Quote: I have a TV copy of this movie and verified there is actually an actor credited as Alfred Hitchcock. I submitted this to seperate that actor from Sir Alfred Hitchcock. Since this has not been released on DVD, it is an improper use of the BY feature. For that reason, I will not be adding it to the list at the beginning of the thread. I hope that Ken or Gerri will remove it from the system. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
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