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Crew roles in British English
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And older British movies like The Third Man can not have, according to the strict interpretation of the rules, a cinematography credit as "Photographed by" does not appear on the list of allowed credits...

Just want to clarify this if there is a credit for "Photographed by" this gets entered as cinematographer and not DOP
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When in doubt, blame the French! 


Bien évidemment, c'est forcément de leur faute, ces pauvres andouilles...
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When in doubt, blame the French! 


Bien évidemment, c'est forcément de leur faute, ces pauvres andouilles...

Obviously, this is necessarily their fault, these poor andouilles ...
What is "andouilles" ?
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Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions.
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And older British movies like The Third Man can not have, according to the strict interpretation of the rules, a cinematography credit as "Photographed by" does not appear on the list of allowed credits...

Just want to clarify this if there is a credit for "Photographed by" this gets entered as cinematographer and not DOP

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And older British movies like The Third Man can not have, according to the strict interpretation of the rules, a cinematography credit as "Photographed by" does not appear on the list of allowed credits...

Just want to clarify this if there is a credit for "Photographed by" this gets entered as cinematographer and not DOP

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I agree with Unicus.

there is absolutely NO indication of DOP.

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The same issue shows up in profiles for silent movies; the only photography credit is "Photographed by" and I think usually that ends up shoehorned into "cinematography" for lack of anything better.  Guys like Billy Bitzer probably could go under either title but I guess cinematography is safer when you're not certain.
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Cinematographer and Director of Photography are different names for the same job used at a different time.
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Cinematographer and Director of Photography are different names for the same job used at a different time.

Generally true, but technically in the UK a cinematographer is more like a lighting cameraman, whereas the DoP oversees the lighting and camera crew.
From a practical point of view this means the cinematographer will frame the shot, whereas a DoP won't.
But these days it's very much a grey area between the two jobs and pretty much interchangable.
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A linguistic question for the Brits here. 

Dubbing Mixer and Dubbing Editor are British English for Sound Re-Recording Mixer and Sound Editor, right?
I found them on screen in the Sound credits section of The Rocky Horror Picture Show, produced by a British company

Besides, Design stands for Production Designer, as it seems?

Just a quick question if you find a Dubbing Mixer/Editor where there are already Re-Recording Mixers and Sound Editors listed in the credits should they be ignored or still entered?

Then later in the credits
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I would leave them out, ninehours. Those credits where there is only the dubbing editor/mixer credits are generally British productions. The dubbing mixer in the example you provided is not doing the same job as the Re-Recording mixers, who are credited in the second shot.
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OK can i get a definitive answer on this question, i am adding Dubbing Editor to some profiles i have again received a "No" vote for this.
These are UK films that have no Sound Editor or Sound Re-recording Mixers.
Ken please state here once and for all are UK equivalents for these roles allowed?

Dubbing Mixer = Sound Re-recording Mixer
Dubbing Editor = Sound Editor
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Then I would suggest to send a PM to the No voter explaining that this is a UK film and that direct translations such as these (in this case from British English to US English) ARE allowed per the rules.
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