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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Hello,
just corrected my profile of "The Dark Crystal" and had to realize that almost all existing profiles of this movie are IMDB clones, or at least incorrect.
It's quite easy to recognize these. IMDB had a misprint instead of the actor "Swee Lim" IMDB had a "Swim Lee" in the credits (this seems to be corrected). The inconsistencies are not limited to this actor, so in most most cases this profile would need a total rebuild.
Funily this effects even some of the "StarWars / Return of the Jedi" - profiles, where this obviously non-existent actor / puppeteer is mentionend too.
Thanks for your interest and help
EDIT: Another indicator is the existence of a "Hugh Spirit" the correct entry should be "Hugh Spight" | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
Registrant since 05/22/2003 | | | | Last edited: by Lewis_Prothero |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 775 |
| | Posted: | | | | It's amazing how often this happens, and on which movies. I looked over the R1 SE profile of Lost Boys the other day, normally one of the bastions of fanboy love, and the credits were IMDB to the letter! Seems strange that no-one spotted this before, on such a popular film. And of course it had been copied to the Blu-ray as well, and who knows where else.  Still, that's what we do, fixing stuff!  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 3,188 |
| | Posted: | | | | Unless it affected a major actor, I admit I would probably never notice... Because, honestly, who cares about pupeteers?  The only time I go through the entire credits is when I enter a new profile from scratch. In most cases the IMDb data is "good enough". But obbiously should be corrected if it is spotted. So thanks to everyone who makes the effort! | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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 | W0m6at | | You're in for it now Tony |
| Registered: April 17, 2007 |  Posts: 1,091 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'm hoping someone will do the R1 Superbit of The Dark Crystal (so I don't have to)... but I was thinking, there's a great idea for a plug-in here if one of the developers wants to get onto it. Something that allows comparison of the existing cast data to the IMDb data, and flags stuff that matches. There would be some false-positives, but it would identify problem profiles rather quickly. | | | | Adelaide Movie Buffs (info on special screenings, contests, bargains, etc. relevant to Adelaideans... and contests/bargains for other Aussies too!) |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 1,946 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,293 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting W0m6at: Quote:
I'm hoping someone will do the R1 Superbit of The Dark Crystal (so I don't have to)... . Once goblinsdoitall's update goes through just do a copy and paste of his data; it'll take you about 30 seconds at most! | | | | It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong |
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| Registered: March 31, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 2,796 |
| | Posted: | | | | No more Swee Lim in the DB. all this movies is change to Swim Lee
"Swee Lim" is credited in the following 7 titles (16 profiles):
Title Year UPC
The Dark Crystal 1982 5-035822-014633
The Dark Crystal 1982 8-712609-074000
The Dark Crystal 1982 IEA3A25E182D68AD3
The Dark Crystal: 25th Anniversary Edition 1982 043396-185807
The Dark Crystal: Columbia Classics Collection 1982 8-712609-039283
The Dark Crystal: Special Edition 1982 043396-028494
The Dark Crystal: Special Edition 1982 5-035822-014633
Der Dunkle Kristall: Anniversary Edition 1982 4-030521-709607
Oz - Eine Fantastische Welt 1985 5-011746-018360
Return to Oz 1985 5-017188-811736
Return To Oz 1985 786936-233780
Return to Oz 1985 8-711875-960246
Return to Oz 1986 013131-082098
Star Wars: Episode VI: Le Retour du Jedi 1983 IAE8BB3962259FFC7
Star Wars: Episode VI: Return of the Jedi 1983 IAE8BB3962259FFC7
Star Wars: Episode VI: Return of the Jedi: Limited Edition 1983 8-712626-023944 | | | | Last edited: by ruben. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,819 |
| | Posted: | | | | Ruben....you've got it wrong.
Swee Lim is correct.
I've personally checked my copy of The Dark Crystal (5035822014633) and it has the correct Swee Lim credits.
Swim Lee is WRONG. |
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| Registered: March 31, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,796 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Pantheon: Quote:
Ruben....you've got it wrong.
Swee Lim is correct.
I've personally checked my copy of The Dark Crystal (5035822014633) and it has the correct Swee Lim credits.
Swim Lee is WRONG. The Dark Crystal 1982 5-035822-014633 The Dark Crystal 1982 8-712609-074000 The Dark Crystal 1982 IEA3A25E182D68AD3 The Dark Crystal: 25th Anniversary Edition 1982 043396-185807 The Dark Crystal: Columbia Classics Collection 1982 8-712609-039283 The Dark Crystal: Special Edition 1982 043396-028494 The Dark Crystal: Special Edition 1982 5-035822-014633 Der Dunkle Kristall: Anniversary Edition 1982 4-030521-709607 Oz - Eine Fantastische Welt 1985 5-011746-018360 Return to Oz 1985 5-017188-811736 Return To Oz 1985 786936-233780 Return to Oz 1985 8-711875-960246 Return to Oz 1986 013131-082098 its been Withdrawn but Star Wars: Episode VI: Return of the Jedi is correct look at the movie at 2:04:34 | | | | Last edited: by ruben. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,946 |
| | Posted: | | | | Actually as noted by Ruben in a contribution of Return of the Jedi, Swim Lee does exist and is credited in Star Wars Episode VI.
The Dark Crystal on the other hand indeed has a credit for Swee Lim. | | | View my collection at http://www.chriskepolis.be/home/dvd.htm
Chris | | | | Last edited: by cvermeylen |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | So now the question becomes does Swim Lee=Swee Lim
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Voltaire53: Quote:
Once goblinsdoitall's update goes through just do a copy and paste of his data; it'll take you about 30 seconds at most! The correct credits are available for Disc-ID IAA6C16111A201723 around 08/10 (contributed them on 08/05). EDIT: They can already be checked in my online collection "Der Dunkle Kristall". The dividers aren't really beautiful, but they appear to be like this in the actual credits. | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
So now the question becomes does Swim Lee=Swee Lim
Skip Since the puppeteer combination "Swim Lee and Hugh Spirit" or better "Swee Lim and Hugh Spight" is mentionend in both cases it's very likely that there is a misprint in either of the credits. But it's only likely, not provable AFAIK. In the case of the "Dark Crystal" we too have totally messed up credits in the profiles (not in order of crediting, false role names, cast missing, undocumented uncredited cast, false jobs in the crew credits, etc.) | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| W0m6at | | You're in for it now Tony |
| Registered: April 17, 2007 | | Posts: 1,091 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,946 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting goblinsdoitall: Quote:
The correct credits are available for Disc-ID IAA6C16111A201723 around 08/10 (contributed them on 08/05).
EDIT: They can already be checked in my online collection "Der Dunkle Kristall". The dividers aren't really beautiful, but they appear to be like this in the actual credits. I made a contribution for the same Disc-ID this evening. Must be for another UPC though, since I can't see your contribution. | | | View my collection at http://www.chriskepolis.be/home/dvd.htm
Chris |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting cvermeylen: Quote:
Quoting goblinsdoitall:
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The correct credits are available for Disc-ID IAA6C16111A201723 around 08/10 (contributed them on 08/05).
EDIT: They can already be checked in my online collection "Der Dunkle Kristall". The dividers aren't really beautiful, but they appear to be like this in the actual credits.
I made a contribution for the same Disc-ID this evening. Must be for another UPC though, since I can't see your contribution. Other location? Belgium / Germany | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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