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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorArdos
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Another one who would support something like this.
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Yep , i also would support this, but I think it is too much work for Ken.
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I agree with fixing the linking system but I do NOT want to have the entire cast/crew db saved on my computer.  That file has got to be huge and I simply don't want it taking up space on my system.
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I agree with fixing the linking system but I do NOT want to have the entire cast/crew db saved on my computer.  That file has got to be huge and I simply don't want it taking up space on my system.


The file perhaps could be online, at invelos. Everytime you edit a DVD you're conected to internet and you search the invelos cast and crew DB. Don't know if it's possible but perhaps that would be an option.

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Paul:

That would only magnify the problem. Wew don't have any kind o cast/crew searchg abilities Online ,a dn with all of the bad data out there it would turn the good data bad veyr fast. NO!!!!! But change the system to simple association... yes, I am for that.

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I had the similar problem started in the other thread about Dwayne Johnson for the film Get Smart.

Ended up crediting him, as per the rules, as The Rock credited as Dwayne Johnson. Didn't like it, but it's the way it's done, so that's what I had to to.

Like others, I brought up the concern of the day Dwayne Johnson actually overtakes The Rock as the most commonly credited name, and then having to revise all his now (or then) incorrect credit entries. It's definitely a flaw in the system and one that's going to cause a bit of headache in a few situations down the road, but hey, I'll play by the rules. I'll bitch about it when I have to go in and fix the credits for the movies he's attached to in a year or two, but I'll play by the rules. 
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You can throw out all "The Rock" credits from the Wrestling DVD's as they don't have credits.
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You can throw out all "The Rock" credits from the Wrestling DVD's as they don't have credits.


If they are properly marked in the main database as 'uncredited', then they are not counted in the CLT.

I suspect that many that should be marked as 'uncredited' are not....this is another reason why the CLT and the current "Credited As" system still isn't working a year and nine months after its implementation! 
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That would only magnify the problem. Wew don't have any kind o cast/crew searchg abilities Online ,a dn with all of the bad data out there it would turn the good data bad veyr fast. NO!!!!! But change the system to simple association... yes, I am for that.

Skip


But you need to associate it with something don't you. As you say, we don't have the search ability yet, what i think is like the current edit option instead of searching your cast locally, you search the online invelos DB containing all credited people in the DB.

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Paul:

Persona;;y speaking I see absolutely no need for such search capabilities relative to the Online and hope we never see them1. People simply do not provide adequate documentation for Cast/Crew data for search to have any significance or value.

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If they are properly marked in the main database as 'uncredited', then they are not counted in the CLT.

That is certainly NOT true!! May I ask where you got that from? I'm getting so tired of these debates where people seem to be inventing things right out of thin air, and then proceed to present them as fact. Again: this is just not true. It should be, of course, that I agree with, but it's not. As it is, (uncredited) entries DO count in the CLT results: the CLT does not differentiate between credited and uncredited entries whatsoever.
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If they are properly marked in the main database as 'uncredited', then they are not counted in the CLT.

That is certainly NOT true!! May I ask where you got that from? I'm getting so tired of these debates where people seem to be inventing things right out of thin air, and then proceed to present them as fact. Again: this is just not true. It should be, of course, that I agree with, but it's not. As it is, (uncredited) entries DO count in the CLT results: the CLT does not differentiate between credited and uncredited entries whatsoever.


I've just run a test & the person tested DID appear in the CLT & that even marks him as uncredited.

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If an actor is uncredited, are the contributors just making up any name?

But a Credit Lookup Tool should ony include credits, and not anything uncredited. For that we would require an Uncredited Lookup Tool, if anyone would be interested.
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I hadn't thought about it but you're right. The way I see it, uncredited roles should use the common name which in the case of "The Rock" would push that name further ahead even if he's only credited as "Dwayne Johnson" in any new films. So I agree that the CLT should not look at uncredited roles.
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Uncredited entries are no longer counted by the CLT for all future accepted profiles.  I'm running a pass through the existing profiles to update them but it will take some time to complete, several hours at least.
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If they are properly marked in the main database as 'uncredited', then they are not counted in the CLT.

That is certainly NOT true!! May I ask where you got that from? I'm getting so tired of these debates where people seem to be inventing things right out of thin air, and then proceed to present them as fact. Again: this is just not true. It should be, of course, that I agree with, but it's not. As it is, (uncredited) entries DO count in the CLT results: the CLT does not differentiate between credited and uncredited entries whatsoever.


See Ken's entry above! 
Hal
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