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New Subtitles option: None
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantDraxen
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I would like the subtitles section of DVDP to have a new option: None. I see that much more informative than having no subtitles listed in a contribution. The latter case leaves open the possibility that the contributor(s) just haven't bothered to check them. Of course "None" would be an exclusive label to choose: if "None" is selected, no languages can be selected with it and vice versa.

Seeing "None" selected in a contributed profile would give an indication that someone has at least checked about the subtitles.

This stems from the experience yesterday, when I visited local DVD store that has great selection of blu-rays in the store. I found Eureka's release of "Junebug", and was interested to purchase it. However, there was no mention of any subtitles on the back cover. The sales person said that there probably are English subtitles, as other Eureka's releases according to him have them, but he couldn't verify it (no blu-ray player ready in the store, and when he checked Amazon and Play he couldn't find any mention of subtitles there either. So, I decided not to buy it yet and instead check DVDP what the profile says. No subtitles listed in the contributed profile either.

Of course all this is a strong indication that there really aren't any subtitles, but having a profile in DVDP saying that there is "None" subtitles would be much more helpful than having no subtitles listed at all.

And while on topic, another request is to include with "None" the option "Forced", when you have no option to set subtitles off.

P.S. Anyone who has Eureka's "Junebug" blu-ray. Could you please confirm about the subtitles, thanks.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributordee1959jay
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Interesting ideas! 

And yes, finding out which subtitles are on a Blu-Ray release can be quite a pain. 
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorArdos
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Indeed, it would avoid any confusion over whether or not the subtitles simply haven't been included.

+1 
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantGorbarama
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+1 Great idea Draxen
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKulju
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+1 for both of 'em, forced and none.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantAstrakan
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I like both ideas, so thumbs up from me.

Also, is it the UK release of Junebug that you're referring to?

If it is, this review specifically mentions that there are no subtitles:

http://www.myreviewer.com/default.asp?a=117326#

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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantMark Harrison
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Seems wise to me.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributoraGsu
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Quoting Kulju:
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+1 for both of 'em, forced and none.

Seconded.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantDraxen
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Quoting Astrakan:
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I like both ideas, so thumbs up from me.

Also, is it the UK release of Junebug that you're referring to?

If it is, this review specifically mentions that there are no subtitles:

http://www.myreviewer.com/default.asp?a=117326#

KM


Thanks for the link, Astrakan! Yes, it indeed was this UK release that I held in my hands in that DVD store. Such a shame that there are no subtitles. Odd too, as they say in that review. I have close to 150 blu-rays and only ONE is without subtitles: U.S. edition of "The Big White". Junebug is now the second that I know of.

There doesn't seem to be U.S. edition, either. Well, maybe later...
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Good idea!

Maybe there should also be a rule for using None for subtitles: that information always must have been verified with the actual disc. Never contribute None solely based on cover information.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorT!M
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Maybe there should also be a rule for using None for subtitles: that information always must have been verified with the actual disc. Never contribute None solely based on cover information.

So "none" could only be used when verified, but submitting any other subtitles based on what the cover says would still be fine? I don't really get that    Ultimately, to me this sounds like a request to forbid to take ANY such data (subtitles, audio tracks, aspect ratio, features,...) from the back cover ever, and though I understand the concerns, I'm not sure I'm too thrilled about that. Heck, we might as well do away with pre-release profiles altogether...
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Quoting T!M:
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Quoting Jykke:
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Maybe there should also be a rule for using None for subtitles: that information always must have been verified with the actual disc. Never contribute None solely based on cover information.

So "none" could only be used when verified, but submitting any other subtitles based on what the cover says would still be fine? I don't really get that    Ultimately, to me this sounds like a request to forbid to take ANY such data (subtitles, audio tracks, aspect ratio, features,...) from the back cover ever, and though I understand the concerns, I'm not sure I'm too thrilled about that. Heck, we might as well do away with pre-release profiles altogether...


I'm happy for data on initial profiles to be taken from the cover as long as it's documented that it's from the cover. But of course actual info from the disc would override that if different (as it currently is anyway).
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKulju
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Since we are talking about new subtitles options. I would like to know the commentary subtitles languages.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDanae Cassandra
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Another option for subtitles that should probably be considered are the subtitle tracks I've been seeing in recent DVDs that are for the deaf & hearing impaired.  These are becoming much more common and I've been seeing more of these and less of close captioning in recent DVDs.  Perhaps this could be done with a simple tic box for SDH subtitles.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKulju
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Quoting Danae Cassandra:
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I've been seeing more of these and less of close captioning in recent DVDs.  Perhaps this could be done with a simple tic box for SDH subtitles.


Close Captioning and subtitles are two completely different things, but yes, it would be nice to collect SDH data too. Tic box wouldn't work though 'cause if we has this option implemented, we need to be able to separate if disc has both. For example we can have English, English (commentary) and English (SDH) on the same disc.
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantnuoyaxin
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Similar to the problem that not selecting a region will make it appear as "All"...

Which means to say: +1
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