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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributordee1959jay
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Not sure I fully understand the ramifications of the distinction between Team and Group dividers. Also not sure what purpose the distinction serves in the first place, and afraid it might create confusion for less experienced contributors. But I'll suspend my judgment until I learn more details.

Other than that: great news about the upcoming beta! Thanks for all that hard work, Ken! 
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributordee1959jay
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Just please, no Mamas & Papas!       


Or Boomtown Rats, for that matter!
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorT!M
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Not sure I fully understand the ramifications of the distinction between Team and Group dividers. Also not sure what purpose the distinction serves in the first place, and afraid it might create confusion for less experienced contributors. But I'll suspend my judgment until I learn more details.

Same here. I certainly hope that we get a detailed explanation about this before contributions from the beta are enabled, to prevent different users from applying them in different ways due to lack of rules/guidance on how to use them.
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Quoting dee1959jay:
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Not sure I fully understand the ramifications of the distinction between Team and Group dividers. Also not sure what purpose the distinction serves in the first place, and afraid it might create confusion for less experienced contributors. But I'll suspend my judgment until I learn more details.

Other than that: great news about the upcoming beta! Thanks for all that hard work, Ken! 

Based on what Ken said, this is how I understand it...confirmation would be nice though.

Episode Dividers: self explanatory, used for episode titles.

Group Dividers: used for group cast headings.

NYPD

Joe Smith  Officer Bob
Sam Niel    Det. Jones

Team Dividers: used for crew headings.

Visual Effects by ILM

John Smith  Visual Effects Supervisor
James Cahn  Special Effects Supervisor

Scotland

Jim Norton  Director of Photography
Sam Joones  Sound Mixer
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
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That is the way I understood it as well. And I would take it that you would use Episode Dividers for when there is 2 movies on 1 side of the disc as well.
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Yea, 2 movies on a single side as well...don't know how I missed that. 

At least I know I am not completely out in left field, or, if I am, I am not alone. 
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
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Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Same here

Skip
ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here

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  Possibly just not alone... as I been out in that left field myself more then once! 
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Based on what Ken said, this is how I understand it...confirmation would be nice though.

Episode Dividers: self explanatory, used for episode titles.

Group Dividers: used for group cast headings.

NYPD

Joe Smith  Officer Bob
Sam Niel    Det. Jones

Team Dividers: used for crew headings.

Visual Effects by ILM

John Smith  Visual Effects Supervisor
James Cahn  Special Effects Supervisor

Scotland

Jim Norton  Director of Photography
Sam Joones  Sound Mixer

Thanks for the visual. Very helpful. 
...James

"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan
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I believe I may combine the team/group dividers for now.  If a need is determined for more types, it will be easy to add.
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I believe I may combine the team/group dividers for now.  If a need is determined for more types, it will be easy to add.

How about disc dividers for use in TV parent profiles?
...James

"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Good idea.

Skip
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Outta here

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I understood it the same.  This will mean having to redo a whole lot of my crew entries.  but it will be worth it.

Thanks again. 

IS IT MONDAY YET??
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Quoting dee1959jay:
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Not sure I fully understand the ramifications of the distinction between Team and Group dividers. Also not sure what purpose the distinction serves in the first place, and afraid it might create confusion for less experienced contributors. But I'll suspend my judgment until I learn more details.

Other than that: great news about the upcoming beta! Thanks for all that hard work, Ken! 

Based on what Ken said, this is how I understand it...confirmation would be nice though.

Episode Dividers: self explanatory, used for episode titles.

Group Dividers: used for group cast headings.

NYPD

Joe Smith  Officer Bob
Sam Niel    Det. Jones

Team Dividers: used for crew headings.

Visual Effects by ILM

John Smith  Visual Effects Supervisor
James Cahn  Special Effects Supervisor

Scotland

Jim Norton  Director of Photography
Sam Joones  Sound Mixer


How do you think this will display when looking at a actors entries

would it be something like

Movie A 
(NYPD) officer bob
other info

Movie B
(Gang member) Jim
other information

or something like this?
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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How do you think this will display when looking at a actors entries

would it be something like

Movie A 
(NYPD) officer bob
other info

Movie B
(Gang member) Jim
other information

or something like this?

Not sure.  Ken said, "Further, the group and team dividers "flow down" to the role listing and are shown in the credit info screen," but I don't know how that will work.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorStaid S Barr
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This seems to be headed for a serious case of data overload, in particular for crew. Of course it's nice to know who the caterer was that provided those great doughnuts on the second day of the shoot, but unless you live around the corner, what will you do with that? But seriously, I just watched a movie (still happens sometimes), where the end credits ran for over 10 minutes!

I sure hope partial updates will be possible, because even now, a correction in one field often screws up another.
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