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I'm I right that the common name is mostly for the linking? Or what's the reason that the common name is so important for some users?

Common name is what appears at the top of an actor's filmography which pops up when you click on his name. If you find it satisfying to see an enormous spelling mistake at the top of this list, I just cannot stand it.

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But this isn't as we should do according the rules.   

Yes, it is .

Rules (updated 4/02/09) : "Exception: If the credit information is entirely capitalized, use standard capitalization rules instead."

For people who do not know standard capitalization rules in another country, they can find it easily in IMDb, without copying entire lists of credits. A name is not copyrighted. By the way, it is easier to check the accentuation in IMDb than search all variants in CLT to add the proper "common name" to obtain linking.

Perhaps you saw in the rules something I missed... not in the forum monthes before last rule update, of course.

Actually, it is you who is seeing something in the rules that isn't there.  Note it says 'standard capitalization rules' not 'standard capitalization rules common to the actors nationality'.

Standard capitalization, for Profiler purposes, is a one to one translation.  That is what Ken was clarifying and that is why no rule update was needed.

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That is a pity that there is no trust between users.

I agree there is no trust shown by some users but please don't paint us all with the same brush. I am more than willing to trust many of the users around here who have shown their expertise in certain areas. I know others feel the same way as well. As to those who seemingly mistrust everyone that's too bad for them but unfortunately it does create issues here for all of us.

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If a Spanish user tells me that correct name for "Penelope Cruz" is "Penélope Cruz", I trust him. If a user from Sweden tells me that "Gosta Bredefeldt" should be "Gösta Bredefeldt", I trust him, and it doesn' need an encyclopedia to be documented. Accentuation is much more easier to solve that parsing, with spelling rules from different languages. Andre, Melanie, Francois, Frederic or Veronique just do not exist for French names...

Couldn't agree more.

I agree with Rick here.  I was more than willing to take this approach back in '08.  Ken, however, chose to go in another direction.  It's his program, so we have to follow that direction if we want to contribute.  Continuing to pummel the equine, who's life functons have ceased, accomplishes nothing at this point.

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If you find it satisfying to see an enormous spelling mistake at the top of this list, I just cannot stand it.

This has nothing to with what you think I find "satisfying", nor with what you can or cannot stand. It's only about having a basic standard that every DVD Profiler user that wishes to use the online database, whether that user is English, French, American, Chinese, Dutch or whatever. That very basic standard for DVD Profiler purposes entails that on on-screen credit of ANDRE MARANNE is entered as Andre Maranne, and an on-screen credit of ANDRÉ MARANNE is entered as André Maranne. Why? Because it's simple, consistent, and easy for everyone to apply. If you want to use a different common name, please go ahead and do so in your local database - the program is set up to let do you whatever you want. But please, let's not go through this ordeal every time we try to establish the common name where an accent comes into play. Ken has settled this a long time ago, and there really is no excuse for trying to muddy the waters by selective bits of quoting.

As for what "satisfies" me in this regard... Easy: consistently linking the man's credits together - that's all. I honestly couldn't care less whether his common name is Andre Maranne, André Maranne, or even "actorID638586" - everything's fine with me, as long as we all use the same one. If Ken had told us to "real" / "correct" names, I'd have been happy to do that. But he didn't. Instead, he told us to use the most-credited form, and he also clarified for us how to deal with accents in cases like this (again: E=e, É=é). There really isn't anything more to it. So can we please stop having this discussion over and over again?

Well... Martian and Tim covered everything I was going to say... for you both. 

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If you find it satisfying to see an enormous spelling mistake at the top of this list, I just cannot stand it.

This has nothing to with what you think I find "satisfying", nor with what you can or cannot stand.

I was answering to VirusPil's question : "what's the reason that the common name is so important for some users?". If you refuse me the right to explain why this is important for me, I agree this is not necessary to discuss any more.

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I honestly couldn't care less whether his common name is Andre Maranne, André Maranne, or even "actorID638586" - everything's fine with me,

BTW, to change of subject, how did you find "actorID248986" in movie UPC 7536489123456 ? Personnally I found she was less sexy than "actorID7854231", but perhaps you have a different position