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BD-Info Tool - Dolby Surround / Stereo |
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| Registered: December 10, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 3,004 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Danae Cassandra: Quote:
replying to Ace:
What is ProLogic mode? And how do I enable it? Put your receiver in mode "Dolby pro-logic" or "Dolby surround." |
| | Registered: December 10, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,004 |
| | Posted: | | | | I've been checking Blu-ray. Firefly, which is clearly marked on the package as surround for some of the dubs, doesn't show up that way in the program. Also, it's not giving the detail on the DTS MA track shown in the OP. |
| | Registered: May 8, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,945 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ace_of_Sevens: Quote:
I've been checking Blu-ray. Firefly, which is clearly marked on the package as surround for some of the dubs, doesn't show up that way in the program. Also, it's not giving the detail on the DTS MA track shown in the OP. What is written on the packages is often just plain wrong Ace, do not worry about that. I would say a good estimate is that 30 % of all info according to audio on DVD / Blu-ray covers is wrong. Important too is , at least I think so, that you remove the copy protection with Any DVD HD, so that the BDInfo Tool can read everything correctly. But I am not certain about that. I have ANY DVD HD running by default. So far I have checked about 30 Blu-rays and the results seem to be all correct. Others here like Katatonia are using that program for much longer and seem to trust it too. I think there is really no reason to not trust this program. It gives me details on every single audio track so far, even of the PiP audio tracks. If you are experiencing problems Ace, it prolly is that you do not have Any DVD HD running. Donnie | | | | www.tvmaze.com | | | | Last edited: by DarklyNoon |
| | Registered: December 10, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,004 |
| | Posted: | | | | I've checked a lot of discs and have yet to find one that shows surround. It warns me about copy protection lots of times, but does eventually work. It would be odd if copy protection kept it from reading surround flags but not the general audio info. |
| | Registered: May 26, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,877 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ace_of_Sevens: Quote:
Quoting Danae Cassandra:
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replying to Ace:
What is ProLogic mode? And how do I enable it?
Put your receiver in mode "Dolby pro-logic" or "Dolby surround." What is a receiver? Is it part of PowerDVD on my computer? Is it something on my DVD player? Is it a piece of equipment I don't own? If this seems a silly question, I promise I'm serious. Tech savvy person I'm not. | | | If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.
-- Thorin Oakenshield |
| | Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | I don't think Ace caught your post about your current set-up. A receiver is a similar piece of equipment to an amp(lifier), though a bit more advanced. Basically it "receives" the audio signal from the DVD player, decodes it and outputs it to your speakers. In short, you ain't got one.  |
| | Registered: May 26, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,877 |
| | Posted: | | | | That's kinda what I thought the answer was, thank you!
I bet it's that thing at a couple of my friends houses (Andrew's and Rogage's) that they have all the wires plugged into. The thing that seems to serve no visible purpose but you have to turn it on anyway and then make them push the right buttons to get everything correctly set up for the movie.
And then there's no difference between watching the movie at their house and watching it at mine.
Which is why I still have my DVD player connected to my TV with my red/white/yellow cable. They have all sorts of stuff that has to be turned on and correctly set up and buttons pushed and everything, and about a gajillion remotes - and I can have the movie on within a minute and we have exactly the same quality.
(Of course, this is what intimidates me about buying an HD TV. I should get one for my PS3 and my growing blu-ray collection, but I don't know what to look for and what to buy and it needs to KISS - keep it simple, stupid! And my mom needs to be able to work it, and she's less tech than myself. It's frankly intimidating. So I keep putting it off.) | | | If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.
-- Thorin Oakenshield | | | | Last edited: by Danae Cassandra |
| | Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | I can't really comment, I also have "a gajillion remotes"  Though if you can't tell the difference, maybe they don't have it set up right. My hearing ain't the best but even I was amazed at the difference between plain old stereo and 5.1 |
| | Registered: May 26, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,877 |
| | Posted: | | | | The only reason that sound is sometimes better is that one of the speakers in my TV sometimes cuts in and out. For old movies in mono you just can't tell. With other movies - like, I've watched Iron Man here at my house and at Rogage's house, and once the left speaker on my TV cut on, I absolutely could not tell any difference. So maybe there is a set-up problem.
Now, admittedly, my hearing isn't the best either. In the early 90's I saw The Rolling Stones at the MAX 58 times at my local IMAX theatre and sat in the back row under the projector booth and the big speakers every time. One of my co-workers always complains about my hearing, so maybe there's something to it, but I honestly don't think it's that bad. | | | If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.
-- Thorin Oakenshield | | | | Last edited: by Danae Cassandra |
| | Registered: December 10, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,004 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Danae Cassandra: Quote:
The only reason that sound is sometimes better is that one of the speakers in my TV sometimes cuts in and out. For old movies in mono you just can't tell. With other movies - like, I've watched Iron Man here at my house and at Rogage's house, and once the left speaker on my TV cut on, I absolutely could not tell any difference. So maybe there is a set-up problem.
Now, admittedly, my hearing isn't the best either. In the early 90's I saw The Rolling Stones at the MAX 58 times at my local IMAX theatre and sat in the back row under the projector booth and the big speakers every time. One of my co-workers always complains about my hearing, so maybe there's something to it, but I honestly don't think it's that bad. Use headphone or put your head right up by the speakers, then. Or, just let other people figure out this data. |
| | Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 6,014 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Danae Cassandra: Quote:
I honestly don't think it's that bad. That's what all people with bad hearing think! But honestly, if you can't tell the difference between your friend's setup and your own (both image- and audio-wise), then there's no point in upgrading your equipment or in switching to Blu-ray. | | | | Last edited: by dee1959jay |
| | Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,014 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
I don't think Ace caught your post about your current set-up.
A receiver is a similar piece of equipment to an amp(lifier), though a bit more advanced.
Basically it "receives" the audio signal from the DVD player, decodes it and outputs it to your speakers.
In short, you ain't got one. Plus a receiver always has a built-in tuner unit, so it can receive radio. And that's the distinction between a surround amp and a surround receiver. |
| | Registered: May 8, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,945 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ace_of_Sevens: Quote:
I've checked a lot of discs and have yet to find one that shows surround. It warns me about copy protection lots of times, but does eventually work. It would be odd if copy protection kept it from reading surround flags but not the general audio info. I do not know if it misreads if you do not kill the copy protection. I am finding both things alot, Surround and also without the Surround Flag. As I am right now at work, what comes to my mind is. Surround Flag found: Doomsday Unrated: USA Blu Commentary track Pelham 123: German Blu Commentary track The Doors: USA Blu Commentary track No Surround Flag: Dr No: Uk Blu Elektra: UK Blu Commentary track I think this is by far the best way to finally get plain stereo and surround audio information. A few contributions I submitted already getting all positive feedback so far  cheers Donnie | | | | www.tvmaze.com | | | | Last edited: by DarklyNoon |
| | Registered: May 26, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,877 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting dee1959jay: Quote:
Quoting Danae Cassandra:
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I honestly don't think it's that bad.
That's what all people with bad hearing think!
But honestly, if you can't tell the difference between your friend's setup and your own (both image- and audio-wise), then there's no point in upgrading your equipment or in switching to Blu-ray. Ahh, but I can tell the difference image-wise between my TV and HD TVs in shops. Neither of my friends have HD, they both have basically the same TV I do, a square one, just hooked up to other pieces of equipment. Quoting Ace_of_Sevens: Quote:
Use headphone or put your head right up by the speakers, then. Or, just let other people figure out this data. I wish I could leave it for other folks. Unfortunately the profiles I end up finding don't seem to have been updated in a few software upgrades, so I don't think any of our forum regulars own them.  | | | If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.
-- Thorin Oakenshield |
| | Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,014 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Danae Cassandra: Quote:
Ahh, but I can tell the difference image-wise between my TV and HD TVs in shops. Neither of my friends have HD, they both have basically the same TV I do, a square one, just hooked up to other pieces of equipment. Sorry, my bad. |
| | Registered: May 26, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,877 |
| | Posted: | | | | Oh, no prob! I didn't fully explain, so there's no way you would have known. Since they have more equip it's easy to think they'd likely have better equip. But, alas, I and all of my friends are still stuck in the square TV era. | | | If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.
-- Thorin Oakenshield |
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