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Men in Black vs. MIB: Men in Black, Men in Black II vs. MIIB: Men in Black II (Locked)
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There I will definitely disagree with you. There is no way in the world I can see the titles  just being...

MIB
MIIB
MIB³

Not per the Rules... not per the front cover.

In my opinion Per the Rules... It would be...

Men in Black
Men in Black II
Men in Black 3

Though I can see how others would think the Rules calls for....

MIB: Men in Black
MIIB: Men in Black II
MIB³: Men in Black 3

But I see no way at all that the rules calls for...

MIB
MIIB
MIB³

In these cases. Now there is cases where something like the above would be right per the rules... but only when that is all that is on the front cover.
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I can't say anything about A.I... only seen it once many years ago... and just couldn't get into it. Found it to be a rather boring movie. But I would probably agree that the title possibly should be Artificial Intelligence. Unless of course everything else pointed to it being part of the title... "A.I. Artificial Intelligence" in the credit block... in the actual credits... etc. etc. etc.

But when it comes to E.T. I can see how it could be part of the title as E.T. was used for a name of the alien in it as well (E.T. phone home)... so thinking of it like that E.T. The Extra-terrestrial makes sense.

Just to answer the question..

'A.I. Artificial Intelligence' is in the credit block of my copy.
"E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial" is in the credit block of my DVD and Blu-ray copies.
"MIB: Men In Blacik" is not.  Mine all say "Men In Black."
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Yes. So?
If people think it should be OC California: Season 1, that is wrong and that was my point. Not that you kept it local.

You talk about arrogant and elitist attitudes then tell him that the title he wants, for his local database, is wrong?  If he wants to call it "Stupid Teens in California," more power to him.  Who are you to tell him he is wrong?  It's HIS database, not yours.
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I can't say anything about A.I... only seen it once many years ago... and just couldn't get into it. Found it to be a rather boring movie. But I would probably agree that the title possibly should be Artificial Intelligence. Unless of course everything else pointed to it being part of the title... "A.I. Artificial Intelligence" in the credit block... in the actual credits... etc. etc. etc.

But when it comes to E.T. I can see how it could be part of the title as E.T. was used for a name of the alien in it as well (E.T. phone home)... so thinking of it like that E.T. The Extra-terrestrial makes sense.

Just to answer the question..

'A.I. Artificial Intelligence' is in the credit block of my copy.
"E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial" is in the credit block of my DVD and Blu-ray copies.
"MIB: Men In Blacik" is not.  Mine all say "Men In Black."



8MM: Eight Millimeter (title in database) credit block (Eight Millimeter) original title (8MM)
R66m 6 (cover) Room 6 title in database & credit block. changing DVD title
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8MM: Eight Millimeter (title in database) credit block (Eight Millimeter) original title (8MM)
R66m 6 (cover) Room 6 title in database & credit block. changing DVD title

If there was a point to your post, I must have missed it. 
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R66m 6 (cover) Room 6 title in database & credit block. changing DVD title


And I will have to vote no on that. It is a cosmetic cover design, nothing more. There are tons of "Titles" on the front covers that have various designs in them. That doesn't mean we can always, or even should, replicate them here in Profiler.

How exactly is R66m 6 (over Room 6) going to be easier for a user to spot it in the database? It's not. Instances like this just make things unnecessarily confusing. The cover is there to view if a person really wants to see such a design for it's Title.

I saw a DVD cover the other day that was "MIRROR" but was spelled "RORRIM" backwards in design. Does it really make logical sense to enter it in the database as Rorrim just based on a cosmetic cover design?
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8MM: Eight Millimeter (title in database) credit block (Eight Millimeter) original title (8MM)
R66m 6 (cover) Room 6 title in database & credit block. changing DVD title

If there was a point to your post, I must have missed it. 



I would say go back and read your posts for T4xi and Mean Girls and the other titles discussions.
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R66m 6 (cover) Room 6 title in database & credit block. changing DVD title


And I will have to vote no on that. It is a cosmetic cover design, nothing more. There are tons of "Titles" on the front covers that have various designs in them. That doesn't mean we can always, or even should, replicate them here in Profiler.

How exactly is R66m 6 (over Room 6) going to be easier for a user to spot it in the database? It's not. Instances like this just make things unnecessarily confusing. The cover is there to view if a person really wants to see such a design for it's Title.

I saw a DVD cover the other day that was "MIRROR" but was spelled "RORRIM" backwards in design. Does it really make logical sense to enter it in the database as Rorrim just based on a cosmetic cover design?



from another title thread: Gerri has already stated long ago that if it can be done on a standard keyboard without going into the character map that it is allowed... which means both Se7en and T4xi is both correct for the DVD Title.
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I would say go back and read your posts for T4xi and Mean Girls and the other titles discussions.


Show me where I posted those... because they don't sound familiar at all.
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I would say go back and read your posts for T4xi and Mean Girls and the other titles discussions.


Show me where I posted those... because they don't sound familiar at all.



that was directed to someone else.
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Quoting ateo357:
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that was directed to someone else.


Okay fine, I misread that then.

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from another title thread: Gerri has already stated long ago that if it can be done on a standard keyboard without going into the character map that it is allowed... which means both Se7en and T4xi is both correct for the DVD Title.


Where is this statement from Gerri located at?

Se7en is the actual title of the film, so how does that even apply here?

Tx4i appears as that on all the front cover's of the database, so it is correct since Taxi 4 does not. This is the same as T2.

R66m 6 could just as easily be viewed as R66M 6 or R66m 6| based on how the 6 and extending line design appears. I don't see it as any more than a design for the Title.
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that was directed to someone else.


Okay fine, I misread that then.

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from another title thread: Gerri has already stated long ago that if it can be done on a standard keyboard without going into the character map that it is allowed... which means both Se7en and T4xi is both correct for the DVD Title.


Where is this statement from Gerri located at?

Se7en is the actual title of the film, so how does that even apply here?

Tx4i appears as that on all the front cover's of the database, so it is correct since Taxi 4 does not.

R66m 6 could just as easily be viewed as R66M 6 or R66m 6| based on how the 6 and extending line design appears.


I belive this is what the other thread was refering to Rules committe  http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=356432&messageID=936263#M936263
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I belive this is what the other thread was refering to Rules committe  http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=356432&messageID=936263#M936263


I don't really see anything she said that enforces your argument here. She said Friends would not be entered as F.R.I.E.N.D.S, it's a design. And JAG would not be entered as J*A*G, it's a design.

I see R66m 6 as just that, a design. It looks just as much like special characters such as ? or ? (which won't even appear here as anything but a "?" but you can view them on any character map, a small 6 and a large 6) as a normal keyed 6.

If Ken or Gerri could step in here and make a ruling once and for all, or perhaps update the rules for these types of situations, we could all stop arguing about this kind of thing. But they've never posted a thing in this thread that I can see.
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I would say go back and read your posts for T4xi and Mean Girls and the other titles discussions.

I would say, if you have a point, make it as I don't have the time nor inclination to play guessing games.
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I see R66m 6 as just that, a design. It looks just as much like special characters such as ? or ? (which won't even appear here as anything but a "?" but you can view them on any character map, a small 6 and a large 6) as a normal keyed 6.

In this post, from the same thread, Ken said "The botom line is that our title rule is not intended to make the title look exactly like the title on the cover (we have cover scans for that), but to portray the title shown in standard characters."

While there were some differing opinions, when combined with Geri's earlier statement, most people took that to mean if the design used standard characters, then that is how it would be entered...meaing R666m 6 would be correct.

Please understand, this is not what I prefer, just how I understand the rules and Ken's statement.  I prefer that we use the actual title so, when we can, as is the case with Men in Black, I think we should.  It's hard enough when the only title on the cover is stylish design, I just don't understand making it just as hard when there is a standard title available.
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Maybe we will get an answer. Even though I personally don't care which way it ends up going (I have my opinion... but not really a preference)... I went ahead and sent a support ticket to Invelos... asking for a clarification before the thread degrades more then it already has.

Now whether we will actually get one is another thing entirely. I have done this on multiple occasions before. Sometimes it would be taken care of the same day... but not always. It varied in time. Once I basically gave up... but ended up finally getting an answer 6 months later.

So who knows... fingers crossed.


Doesn't sound like it worked.    

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