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 Men in Black vs. MIB: Men in Black, Men in Black II vs. MIIB: Men in Black II (Locked) |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 17,318 |
| | Posted: | | | | As far as I am concerned I agreed to disagree from the start... I am not the one that wanted to get personal at all... and still don't feel I have gotten personal. Though I can't say the same for others. | | | | Pete |
| | Registered: May 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | This issue will not be resolved in the forums. Titles have been ping-ponging and will continue to do so unless invelos steps in.
Why bother discussing or debating an issue that can not be fixed in the forums? It seems a waste of time and energy to me. |
| | Registered: May 2, 2009 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 490 |
| | Posted: | | | |  Easy: MIIB: Men in Black IIQuoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
Because one is nothing but the logo... so is the title of that DVD release. In the other case I don't believe that the logo is part of the title of that DVD release. No more then Mr. Jones and Mr. Smith is part of the title of that release.
Just like every release we have to look and determine what on the front cover is part of the title and what is not. And when you have to do something like that... within a large group of people you will on many occasions have different opinions on what is the correct title. Which is why we have some that use both the logo and the title... and other that use just the title when both is on the front cover. And with this argument, the "logo" is nullified? Should we have to "lock things and keep them locally", because your arguments are basically irrational and illogical? You call MIB/MIIB a logo, for what reason? And why isn't MIB³ a logo, all of a sudden? Get real. Quoting Kathy: Quote:
This thread has run its course - it seems that people just need to have the last word.
Please stop with the personal and increasingly disrespectful comments.
Agree to disagree on this issue and move on. Yes, Mom. Oh, wait, you're not my Mom. If you don't have anything constructive to write, why bother to intervene? We're trying to solve this as best we can. If not come to a consensus, but at least sort one or a few things out. However, I'd rather like to expose how full of holes some arguments are around here about some things. That rules are not always followed and that some seem to think they can bypass the rules, as long as they can back it up with the loose kind of arguing that I am criticizing. | | | | Last edited: by MikaLove |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,318 |
| | Posted: | | | | Yes... IMHO, the logo gets ignored when it has both on the cover. As it tells us to take the title from the cover... the title IMHO is Men in Black II... Saying MIIB: Men in Black II is IMHO saying... Men in Black II: Men in Black II putting both is just repeating what the title really is. Quote:
And why isn't MIB³ a logo, all of a sudden?. Who says it isn't? Because it is that way in my local? That is already answered early in this thread... As I said that it isn't important enough to me personally to bother changing it. I personally feel Men in Black III is the correct title for contributing and voting... but I just don't care enough to waste the time to fix it. I tried tried to explain that everyone must look at the case and determine what part(s) on the front cover the title actually is. And doing this in a group... you will have differencing of opinions. That is not saying either is right or wrong... You believe MIIB: Men in Black II is the title of the DVD. I can understand that and can see how some would feel this way. But that don't mean that I agree that it is the title of the DVD. Ken has never clarified how he wants it for the online database... that means it is up to each person to contribute and vote on what they believe the correct title to be. Which means you will have some people voting yes and some people voting no since there is no agreement. Especially since I can tell you from experience neither side will give up their opinion to the other side. Which means the screeners in such a case will most likely go with the majority of votes in such a case. I don't know what more to say... whether you understand or agree with what I said here... it is what it is. | | | | Pete |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,199 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
I don't know what more to say... whether you understand or agree with what I said here... it is what it is. There isn't anything more to say. You can't have a rational discussion with someone who "really doesn't care either what you think or what your opinions are." | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: May 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting MikaLove: Quote:
Yes, Mom. Oh, wait, you're not my Mom.
If you don't have anything constructive to write, why bother to intervene?
"Mom" - I don't need you to tell me if my thoughts and comments are constructive or when I should intervene. Quoting MikaLove: Quote:
We're trying to solve this as best we can. If not come to a consensus, but at least sort one or a few things out.
This thread is full of posts that show how little consensus there is on this topic. It seems to me the only solution you find acceptable is yours. There are many in the community who do not agree with you or your solution. Quoting MikaLove: Quote:
However, I'd rather like to expose how full of holes some arguments are around here about some things.
It seems to me that you have tried to do so and have been unsuccessful in your attempts. Quoting MikaLove: Quote:
That rules are not always followed and that some seem to think they can bypass the rules, as long as they can back it up with the loose kind of arguing that I am criticizing.
You might not agree or like it but those who disagree with you ARE following the rules. As TheMadMartian pointed out, "..the issue is deciding what, on the cover, constitutes the title." You believe one thing - others believe something else. Quoting MikaLove: Quote:
If you don't have anything constructive to write, why bother to intervene? Why? Because, based on all of the above, I see them as being as constructive as anything else posted in this thread. These are my thoughts and I stand by them Quoting Kathy: Quote:
This issue will not be resolved in the forums. Titles have been ping-ponging and will continue to do so unless invelos steps in.
Why bother discussing or debating an issue that can not be fixed in the forums? It seems a waste of time and energy to me. If you have a problem with my comments MikaLove - please employ the forum blocks so that you will not be forced to read them. | | | | Last edited: by Kathy |
| | Registered: May 2, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 490 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'm gonna turn your world upside down. Take a look at this cover, and tell me it's a "logo":  The DVD title for this edition is, as it should be and per the rules, "T2". Though, the original title for the movie, is Terminator 2: Judgment Day. You're just a bunch of hypocrites.  | | | | Last edited: by MikaLove |
| | Registered: May 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,934 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting MikaLove: Quote:
I'm gonna turn your world upside down.
Take a look at this cover, and tell me it's a "logo":
The DVD title for this edition is, as it should be and per the rules, "T2".
Though, the original title for the movie, is Terminator 2: Judgment Day.
You're just a bunch of hypocrites. It is a logo.. See there, I said it. In this case, absent any other title indicator on the cover, we must use it as the title of the DVD. That does not negate addicted's argument. With every title submitted, me must make a decision what is and isn't part of the title. I am sorry, disagreeing with you does not a hypocrite make. I do as I profess, I just disagree with you. Charlie |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 20,111 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CharlieM: Quote:
It is a logo.. See there, I said it.
In this case, absent any other title indicator on the cover, we must use it as the title of the DVD.
That does not negate addicted's argument. With every title submitted, me must make a decision what is and isn't part of the title.
I am sorry, disagreeing with you does not a hypocrite make. I do as I profess, I just disagree with you.
Charlie Exactly.  | | | | Corey |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,199 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Katatonia: Quote:
Quoting CharlieM:
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It is a logo.. See there, I said it.
In this case, absent any other title indicator on the cover, we must use it as the title of the DVD.
That does not negate addicted's argument. With every title submitted, me must make a decision what is and isn't part of the title.
I am sorry, disagreeing with you does not a hypocrite make. I do as I profess, I just disagree with you.
Charlie
Exactly. Exactly, indeed. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,272 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Quoting Katatonia:
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Quoting CharlieM:
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It is a logo.. See there, I said it.
In this case, absent any other title indicator on the cover, we must use it as the title of the DVD.
That does not negate addicted's argument. With every title submitted, me must make a decision what is and isn't part of the title.
I am sorry, disagreeing with you does not a hypocrite make. I do as I profess, I just disagree with you.
Charlie
Exactly.
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,318 |
| | Posted: | | | | I agree with what the last few has said here. There is no Hypocrisy here. Just disagreement on what people think is a title of a DVD. Not a surprising thing considering the number of people... from all around the world. | | | | Pete |
| | Registered: May 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
I agree with what the last few has said here. There is no Hypocrisy here. Just disagreement on what people think is a title of a DVD. Not a surprising thing considering the number of people... from all around the world. Exactly |
| | Registered: May 2, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 490 |
| | Posted: | | | | There are two things here. BULLying, and BULLsh!t. What on earth differs from the T2 "logo" and the MIIB "logo"? In the two examples of DVD covers. NOTHING. So get it straight. I'm gonna contribute the MIB/MIIB editions the way I see them and the way it is per the rules, and let the screeners decide. Not you. And FYI, I had two contributions approved a couple of days ago, that 5 of you voted no for. Including TMM...! Hah. Victory tastes sweet. The rules are the rules and you do not stand above them. Agree, bully and as much as you like. I couldn't care less. |
| | Registered: May 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting MikaLove: Quote:
"BULLying. and BULLsh!t"? I find your comments almost comical. Why? I suggest the community go through your forum posts and see exactly how you treat others. Here are just a few highlights - there are many, many more: Quoting MikaLove: Quote:
"Hypocrite"
"elitist group"
"little rebels"
"arrogant, elitist people acting like they own this joint"
"I'd slap you silly if I could. The ignorance about how you behave is worrisome. Jump from a cliff, bullies." I suggest you follow your own advice: Quoting MikaLove: Quote:
"Get off your high horses and stop bullying people, to whom it may concern. Grown-ups being defensive over movie collecting "knowledge"." Because: Quoting MikaLove: Quote:
Either way, improve on your attitude. I have no patience for your current one. Edit: Quoting MikaLove: Quote:
I'm gonna contribute the MIB/MIIB editions the way I see them and the way it is per the rules, and let the screeners decide. Not you. Others in the community are also allowed to do the same with any other contribution. | | | | Last edited: by Kathy |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,199 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting MikaLove: Quote:
There are two things here. BULLying, and BULLsh!t. Yes, and they are both coming from you. Quote:
What on earth differs from the T2 "logo" and the MIIB "logo"? In the two examples of DVD covers. As has been explained, several times, one has just the logo and the other has a logo plus the actual title. In the case of the former, we have no choice but to use the logo as the title. In the latter, we do have a choice and it makes far more sense to use the actual title whenever possible. Quote:
NOTHING. So get it straight. Your inability to see it doesn't make it nothing, so it is you who should get it straight. Quote:
I'm gonna contribute the MIB/MIIB editions the way I see them and the way it is per the rules, and let the screeners decide. Not you. As it is always done...but be aware, someone already made this attempt and it was declined. Quote:
And FYI, I had two contributions approved a couple of days ago, that 5 of you voted no for. Including TMM...! Hah. Victory tastes sweet. Wow, just wow. Quote:
The rules are the rules and you do not stand above them. Neither do you. Quote:
Agree, bully and as much as you like. I couldn't care less. Your posts, and the little 'sweet taste of victory' above, tell a much different story. It seems you care far too much. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
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