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| Registered: June 12, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,665 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
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Which means there are probably a lot of these that will have to be changed.
Changed? Seems the majority is still for 20th... That's what i meant, if we change from 20th => Twentieth | | | | Bad movie? You're soaking in it! |
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| Registered: June 12, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,665 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Berak: Quote:
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That's nice, but we haven't heard anyone with another explanation for using "20th" than "because that's what it says in the studios thread".
The other reason given was because in the past the field wasn't long enough for the spelled out name. Which means there are probably a lot of these that will have to be changed.
They will have to be changed/added anyway with the new Media Distributor field in place for 3.5..  True enough, but any fraction of a second i can save by not typing is time i can use buying DVDs!  | | | | Bad movie? You're soaking in it! |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 2,366 |
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They will have to be changed/added anyway with the new Media Distributor field in place for 3.5.. Exactly, that's why I decided to use the correct and longer version. Nice to know that it was me who decided to light this "fuse".  | | | Martin Zuidervliet
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| Registered: March 20, 2007 | | Posts: 38 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
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To me, this means more than a few users voting for the studios thread-preferred "20th" just because that's what they've always been doing.
I voted for 20th because when I look at a film from them, the firt thing I see is their famous logo, and it is written 20th Century fox. More than fifty years that 20th is in my mind, not at all Twentieth which is written in small characters somewhere on a back cover. that would be the production/theatrical release studio.. not the dvd distributor. you need to look at the back of the case for that. |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 4,479 |
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To me, this means more than a few users voting for the studios thread-preferred "20th" just because that's what they've always been doing.
I voted for 20th because when I look at a film from them, the firt thing I see is their famous logo, and it is written 20th Century fox. More than fifty years that 20th is in my mind, not at all Twentieth which is written in small characters somewhere on a back cover.
that would be the production/theatrical release studio..
not the dvd distributor. you need to look at the back of the case for that. I know that. But do you mean we should keep 20th for Production studio, and take Twentieth for DVD distributor ? It would be great as I'm not interested by DVD distributor (I use dvdprofiler as movie profiler...)  | | | | Images from movies |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting garmonbozia: Quote:
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To me, this means more than a few users voting for the studios thread-preferred "20th" just because that's what they've always been doing.
I voted for 20th because when I look at a film from them, the firt thing I see is their famous logo, and it is written 20th Century fox. More than fifty years that 20th is in my mind, not at all Twentieth which is written in small characters somewhere on a back cover.
that would be the production/theatrical release studio..
not the dvd distributor. you need to look at the back of the case for that. Not entirely true, garmon. With several Studios, Fox included, they have an On Screen title card for the DVD Distributor. And the On Screen title card says.....<drum roll> Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
that would be the production/theatrical release studio..
not the dvd distributor. you need to look at the back of the case for that. Not entirely true, garmon. With several Studios, Fox included, they have an On Screen title card for the DVD Distributor. And the On Screen title card says.....<drum roll> Skip Good point. So which prevails? The on-screen credit (my preference) or the teeny, tiny fine print on the back of the case? | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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  | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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So which prevails? The on-screen credit (my preference) or the teeny, tiny fine print on the back of the case? Remember that the same can be said for the theatrical branch: do you go with the "20th" logo preceding the movie, or with the "Twentieth" as shown in the actual credits? It's the exact same thing... | | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | And while we're at it, why don't we start up a nice argument about: MGM vs. Metro Goldwyn Mayer vs Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer vs Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer(MGM) vs Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Pictures vs MGM/UA ad nauseum, ad nauseum.  We can decide to do it one way this week, and then argue about it again in six months and decide to do it a totally different way then even though a poll does not support it but because the people voting were swayed by some outside influence therefore the poll doesn't really matter! So much fun!  | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
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So which prevails? The on-screen credit (my preference) or the teeny, tiny fine print on the back of the case?
Remember that the same can be said for the theatrical branch: do you go with the "20th" logo preceding the movie, or with the "Twentieth" as shown in the actual credits? It's the exact same thing... Most films clearly state TWENTIETH CENTURY FOX written out in the actual film credits along with the copyright date! | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
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So which prevails? The on-screen credit (my preference) or the teeny, tiny fine print on the back of the case?
Remember that the same can be said for the theatrical branch: do you go with the "20th" logo preceding the movie, or with the "Twentieth" as shown in the actual credits? It's the exact same thing... It is not the same thing: One is the logo, the other the text credit for the same company  | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. |
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| T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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So which prevails? The on-screen credit (my preference) or the teeny, tiny fine print on the back of the case?
Remember that the same can be said for the theatrical branch: do you go with the "20th" logo preceding the movie, or with the "Twentieth" as shown in the actual credits? It's the exact same thing...
Most films clearly state TWENTIETH CENTURY FOX written out in the actual film credits along with the copyright date! Indeed! So we disregard the logo and use "Twentieth Century Fox" for the theatrical branch. The exact same thing applies to the distributing branch: we disregard the logo since the actual, written out credit is "Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment" every time. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
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So which prevails? The on-screen credit (my preference) or the teeny, tiny fine print on the back of the case?
Remember that the same can be said for the theatrical branch: do you go with the "20th" logo preceding the movie, or with the "Twentieth" as shown in the actual credits? It's the exact same thing...
Most films clearly state TWENTIETH CENTURY FOX written out in the actual film credits along with the copyright date!
Indeed! So we disregard the logo and use "Twentieth Century Fox" for the theatrical branch. The exact same thing applies to the distributing branch: we disregard the logo since the actual, written out credit is "Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment" every time. Please refer me to a single film where the distributor is displayed in the on screen credits as 'Twentieth Century Home Entertainment' written out in full. | | | | Hal |
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| T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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So which prevails? The on-screen credit (my preference) or the teeny, tiny fine print on the back of the case?
Remember that the same can be said for the theatrical branch: do you go with the "20th" logo preceding the movie, or with the "Twentieth" as shown in the actual credits? It's the exact same thing...
It is not the same thing: One is the logo, the other the text credit for the same company You misunderstand, although maybe I should have said: "It's the exact same situation." Either you go with the logo, or with the fully written out credit. That choice applies to both the theatrical and the distributing branches, and I don't understand why someone would want to treat them differently. |
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| T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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Please refer me to a single film where the distributor is displayed in the on screen credits as 'Twentieth Century Home Entertainment' written out in full. Please refer me to a single film where the distributor is displayed on the cover as '20th Century Fox Home Entertainment' written out in full. Look: we don't take DVD distributors from the disc - it would be a mess. Think of all those switching rights: for instance, I've got plenty Fox-distributed DVD's that used to be MGM property, and so there's no Fox logo to be seen when you play the disc, but it's full of "MGM Home Entertainment" ones. That doesn't make MGM the distributor, though. Yet that seems to be what you are suggesting: letting that on-screen logo prevail the written credit on the cover. Those logos may be nice, but it's simply about what's on the cover. And for Fox DVD's that's "Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment" every time. Several users have also confirmed that sole reason we were using "20th" in the first place was because the studios field used to be too short too allow the correct, longer variant, so I fail to see why you're so attached to it. This is the ideal time to correct that error - right before we're all going to be re-submitting all these entries. Again: if you agree that the written "Twentieth" credit should prevail over the "20th" logo for the theatrical branch, then why wouldn't you apply the same logic to the distributor? | | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
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So which prevails? The on-screen credit (my preference) or the teeny, tiny fine print on the back of the case?
Remember that the same can be said for the theatrical branch: do you go with the "20th" logo preceding the movie, or with the "Twentieth" as shown in the actual credits? It's the exact same thing... Distributor is a different animal from production studios, Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
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