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| Registered: September 18, 2008 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,650 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting bbbbbb: Quote:
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I am not sure where you are getting this, that studios deal with them in seasons. I can point to quite a few where the director will change from episode to episode. Writers can change from episode to episode. Cast can change from episode to episode. DoP, editor, makeup, production designer, costume designer, producer...they can all change on a per episode basis.
The reality is, the studios treat each episode as a single production.
The reality is, companies never market their series DVDs as episodes, they always come as "Seasons". But some come as 4 episode volumes, 2 episode 'tasters', part seasons, best ofs including episodes from various seasons etc etc. So what rule of thumb (listed in the rules or forum) do we go for here? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 17,319 |
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I am not sure where you are getting this, that studios deal with them in seasons. I can point to quite a few where the director will change from episode to episode. Writers can change from episode to episode. Cast can change from episode to episode. DoP, editor, makeup, production designer, costume designer, producer...they can all change on a per episode basis.
The reality is, the studios treat each episode as a single production.
The reality is, companies never market their series DVDs as episodes, they always come as "Seasons". They don't market their DVDs as episodes? I have an entire series (2 seasons 13 episode each) that was marketed per episode... not season I have several series released in volumes... not seasons. I have releases of best of containing 1 or more episodes from different seasons I have them released as seasons (how you say is the only way they are marketed) I have series released in complete series sets where many multiple seasons are released in 1 single set so how is it that the DVDs are marketed as seasons only? | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 5,734 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting VirusPil: Quote:
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...Just counting per fragment is the most absurd thing to do. ...
It's not very useful imho. Here I agree.
But it is not absurd as it is nearly the way the CLT counts them. (Because of the way how we enter TV series and the current version of the programm) I have the one or other season of a TV series, but not one single child profile. So, do they use an Original Title that is different from the mother season profile? | | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 6,738 |
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So, do they use an Original Title that is different from the mother season profile? There's no real consistency in the database about that either. But I've always contributed the original title containing the season and disc number and have never gotten any grief over it. E.g. "LOST: Die komplette erste Staffel: Disc Eins" -> "LOST: The Complete First Season: Disc One" (just an example, not necessarily a real contribution of mine) | | | Karsten
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 5,734 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
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The reality is, companies never market their series DVDs as episodes, they always come as "Seasons".
They don't market their DVDs as episodes? I have an entire series (2 seasons 13 episode each) that was marketed per episode... not season
I have several series released in volumes... not seasons.
I have releases of best of containing 1 or more episodes from different seasons
I have them released as seasons (how you say is the only way they are marketed)
I have series released in complete series sets where many multiple seasons are released in 1 single set
so how is it that the DVDs are marketed as seasons only? Damned, this seems to be more difficult than I first thought. What was the series that was sold as 26 separate episodes? | | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
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| Registered: January 1, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,087 |
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So, do they use an Original Title that is different from the mother season profile?
There's no real consistency in the database about that either. But I've always contributed the original title containing the season and disc number and have never gotten any grief over it.
E.g. "LOST: Die komplette erste Staffel: Disc Eins" -> "LOST: The Complete First Season: Disc One"
(just an example, not necessarily a real contribution of mine) This is the way Gerri has supported: http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=430575&PageNum=2&messageID=1171734#M1171734The examples were always for whole Seasons, but as for the Disc level profiles always an descriper for the disc is added, the example from DJ Doena would match. (That's how I also seen it many times in the database) | | | | Last edited: by VirusPil |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,319 |
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The reality is, companies never market their series DVDs as episodes, they always come as "Seasons".
They don't market their DVDs as episodes? I have an entire series (2 seasons 13 episode each) that was marketed per episode... not season
I have several series released in volumes... not seasons.
I have releases of best of containing 1 or more episodes from different seasons
I have them released as seasons (how you say is the only way they are marketed)
I have series released in complete series sets where many multiple seasons are released in 1 single set
so how is it that the DVDs are marketed as seasons only?
Damned, this seems to be more difficult than I first thought.
What was the series that was sold as 26 separate episodes? A showtime series called Masters of Horror was originally released one episode at a time. I have all 26 episodes on 26 different releases. | | | | Pete | | | | Last edited: by Addicted2DVD |
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| Registered: January 1, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,087 |
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A showtime series called Masters of Horror was originally released one episode at a time. I have all 26 episodes on 26 different releases. Have two of them in my collection. Always treated them as normal single movies. Is there a profile for the complete season/series? Is it treated as TV series or as normal box set? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,319 |
| | Posted: | | | | There is also season sets and volume sets that I know of Not sure if there is a complete series set or not.
As for how they are in the database I have no idea as I don't have the sets. But no matter how they are in the database don't really matter as it IS a TV Series... per Rules it would need follow the TV Series rules. So if they are in there as boxsets they would be breaking the rules. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: September 18, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,650 |
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There is also season sets and volume sets that I know of Not sure if there is a complete series set or not.
As for how they are in the database I have no idea as I don't have the sets. But no matter how they are in the database don't really matter as it IS a TV Series... per Rules it would need follow the TV Series rules. So if they are in there as boxsets they would be breaking the rules. They are also available as double features. I have the boxset personally. Great example IMO. |
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| Registered: January 1, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,087 |
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There is also season sets and volume sets that I know of Not sure if there is a complete series set or not.
As for how they are in the database I have no idea as I don't have the sets. But no matter how they are in the database don't really matter as it IS a TV Series... per Rules it would need follow the TV Series rules. So if they are in there as boxsets they would be breaking the rules. Depending on how a TV series is defined.  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,319 |
| | Posted: | | | | Bull... it is a TV Series... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masters_of_Horror (Shows it as a series with episodes) http://epguides.com/MastersofHorror/ (episode guide for the series) http://www.tv.com/masters-of-horror/show/37740/summary.html?q=Masters%20of%20Horror&tag=search_results;summary;1 (Shows it is a series of episodes) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0448190/ (shows it as a TV Series.) And yes... I see the in your post... but what can I say... you hit on a pet peeve of mine. | | | | Pete | | | | Last edited: by Addicted2DVD |
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| Registered: January 1, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,087 |
| | Posted: | | | | Perhaps the problem is that those I have in my collection don't show any thing they are linked together. Without the original title which has Masters of Horror at the beginning you would never ever have any idea they're part of a series.
Also the movies looked as they have nothing to do with each other.
They could be also single short movies.
Edit: Hope you can see my point. | | | | Last edited: by VirusPil |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,319 |
| | Posted: | | | | Sounds like they are in wrong (per rules) in your region. In the R1 US releases they are all listed as Masters of Horror: Title as the title.. all the discs starts with the Masters of horror theme...All R1 DVDs are listed as TV Series releases. It is what is called an Anthology series... no different then say The Twilight Zone... especially season 4 of Twilight Zone where the episodes were an hour long.
The main difference is that it is a showtime series (a premium cable channel)... so they were able to show more gore and/or nudity unlike the networks are able to do. But that don't make it any less of a TV Series.
But I understand how other regions can get confused on it. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: January 1, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,087 |
| | Posted: | | | | For the two I own (Too liitle to see, but as written above it's really hard to find out they are part from a tv series):   Original title for those: Masters of Horror: Season: Title Perhaps there's some correction to make. But in general, I wouldn't say they're wrong. Quote:
all the discs starts with the Masters of horror theme... This is something to check if it's the same. Perhaps I would then also see the part of a series. Edit: and of course I agree it's a TV series after reading the links as all of the shorts are specificly filmed for this show. | | | | Last edited: by VirusPil |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,199 |
| | Posted: | | | | Nevermind...Pete and Sam covered it. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
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