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The continued drama we call "parsing": Ellen Albertini Dow
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributorhal9g
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And since the "As Credited" is not actually parsed, it will have no impact on the CLT


Yes, I do think I said that!

As I didn't quote that portion, clearly I must have missed it and it should have been obvious...to anyone without some sort of personal issue...that I was responding to the portion I did quote.  I did, however, allow for the fact that I misunderstood...or missed something...because I did apologize for the fact that I might have done so.  Again, that should have been enough for anybody without a personal issue.
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What I meant was that no "As Credited" name would be displayed in the profile, but let me rephrase that to be 100% precise:

You have asked, in the past, that I not try to figure out what you meant, but rather read what you wrote so that is what I did.  Please make up your mind.
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In fact, the program will not enter a different "As Credited" name at all, in this circumstance.

I don't believe the program ever enters a different as credited name, in any circumstance.  Unless I have missed something, the as credited name will always reflect the 'common' name...the one that is parsed...until the user changes it, or an update with a changed credited as name is downloaded, so I am not sure where you are going with this.
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I'd appreciate it if you would stop trying to show everyone how much more you know about how the program works than me.  Especially since it ain't so!

I am not sure why you seem to be taking this as some sort of personal attack but I am not trying to show anybody anything.  I read a post that seemed to imply* something that wasn't true...that you could parse the 'credited as' entry.  When you replied, I explained what I was questioning and apologized if I had misunderstood.  If that's not good enough for you, well, that's on you, not me.

*I say seemed to imply because you included a parsing example when refering to the 'as credited' name and I don't know why anybody would do that unless that is what they were trying to imply. 


I've come to the conclusion that the best thing I can do is simply block you in order to eliminate my "personal issue" with you.
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Quoting Ken Cole:
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Parsing is no longer considered or displayed in the online contribution system.

1) I note a bug: the Credited As name is showing as the As Credited name also
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what i see now is

Nicolas Coppola [Nicolas Coppola]

which should be

Nicholas Cage [Nicolas Coppola]

This shows as the existing and submitted name, neither of which are part of the change i submitted.

2) The change i submitted did change the parsing of one name and now the before and after cannot be seen.  Is what you are saying ("parsing is no longer considered" mean that part of my update is moot?
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Can we not lose the colour change though? I found it easier when the Actor was one colour (or three) and the Role was another.

Good idea, a color difference between actor and role would help readability
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Can we not lose the colour change though? I found it easier when the Actor was one colour (or three) and the Role was another.

Good idea, a color difference between actor and role would help readability

Agreed
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Can we not lose the colour change though? I found it easier when the Actor was one colour (or three) and the Role was another.

Good idea, a color difference between actor and role would help readability


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Added a differentiation for role/name, and corrected the CreditedAs display.
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Blimey, that's service! Thanks. Much better.
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Quoting myself, yesterday:
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If only the contribution system would be able to ignore parsing differences, then this wouldn't pose a problem anymore.

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Parsing is no longer considered or displayed in the online contribution system.

That was quick! Thanks! 
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Quoting Ken Cole:
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Added a differentiation for role/name, and corrected the CreditedAs display.


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Nice. 
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Just for completeness:
If I download or a profile with (for my local database) a new person the current online parsing from this profile will be downloaded?
So since now, the parsing that will be added by the initial contribution?
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AS i asked Virus, in reality what does parsing bo this program we are only cataloging actor lists and names, we are not developing any family registry and we have a tool that would link variants, except that parsing is now ignored for the CLT. From my viewpoint, these discussions have always been rather pointless and much ado about about nothing since how a given name is parsed has no real relevance to what we are doing, except perhaps thjose that wish to moan about being accurate but that actually sounds like another issue more related to family tree generation where of course you would want the name to accurately captured.
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Quoting Winston Smith:
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..., except that parsing is now ignored for the CLT.

As the CLT uses the credited as field and treated the name fields also as one field, the parsing doesn't have an influence on the CLT results.

My question was just a question out of interest. Nothing more nothing less, so no need to interpret something into this. 
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AS i asked Virus, in reality what does parsing bo this program we are only cataloging actor lists and names, we are not developing any family registry and we have a tool that would link variants, except that parsing is now ignored for the CLT. From my viewpoint, these discussions have always been rather pointless and much ado about about nothing since how a given name is parsed has no real relevance to what we are doing, except perhaps thjose that wish to moan about being accurate but that actually sounds like another issue more related to family tree generation where of course you would want the name to accurately captured.


As has been pointed out numerous times, but which you apparently wish to ignore, parsing does have a direct impact on how actor names are listed in the actor list when entering actors in a profile.  Not sure why Ii bother, as you will undoubtedly ignore this again.
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It has an impact, but no relevance to the program itself...it means nothing. For this program it means virtually nothing whether it is baker hall or Baker/Hall, except that people want to argue over it. But the relevance to the program is nil
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Four years of the same constant bitching in the same constant threads was all it took?? Rock on.

Not that I want to seem totally ungrateful... it's cool this finally happened (I'm assuming that since our locals still have three name fields, parsing is a completely local thing now? So I've still got to watch for parsing different from my local to come through when I download new profiles?) and it will remove an annoying thorn in the side of everyone who's ever taken part in a "how do we parse this name" thread, so that's good.

Just wish that so many hard feelings weren't created over the past four years due to a topic that it appears was solved fairly easily.

Still, a thanks from me.
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