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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 585 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting kdh1949: Quote:
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The rules say absolutely nothing about differentiating crew. You can read whatever you want into the rules (but you personally aren't upholding the rules as they are written), but in fact, you or anyone, would be wrong if they voted No to the contribution in question.
I'm confused. Scott Rudin is an actor. What does whether or not we differentiate crew have to do with a need for this actor's BY in the database? He's a producer, not an actor. | | | "Rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men" - Douglas Bader
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
Now would you care to apologize. Quote:
So, in the meantime you can slander me, James Yo tell me how i am supposed to take your comment.
You have got to be kidding me. Think very hard before you respond. This 'moral outrage' rings very hollow after what happened yesterday.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Scott Rudin is a producer:
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Etc. | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,480 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting m.cellophane: Quote:
I sent this PM to Gerri:
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I don't know if you've seen this thread, but it appears we have an accepted birth year for Scott Rudin in the crew table. Nobody can find a second Scott Rudin. It appears to have come from the headshots database. Is there any way you can turn off the accepted status for the birth year for Scott Rudin so that the check box will appear for contributions?
I'll let you know what she says. She replied that the acceptance of the birth year has been removed on their end. Problem solved. | | | ...James
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Well done James. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 6,018 |
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| Registered: March 26, 2007 | | Posts: 196 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting FUBAR: Quote:
The rules only stipulate that Birth Years are to be used to differentiate actors with the same names. Nothing at all is said about differentiating crew. So the Birth Year for Rudin is fine according to the rules. Let's look more closely: Enter birth years only when necessary to differentate between two actors with the same name.The only in there is quite clear. The birth year can only be used on actors, never on crew, if you read the rule strictly as written. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,029 |
| | Posted: | | | | James, I have to add my thanks as well for your level-headed and constructive approach. | | | | Matthias |
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| Registered: March 28, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 1,299 |
| | Posted: | | | | To Skip:
Could you reply to my last post in this thread? On page 6 I believe. I'm genuinely interested in the answer to both of those questions, as it will help me in the future.
Thanks.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,372 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting m.cellophane: Quote:
Quoting m.cellophane:
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I sent this PM to Gerri:
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I don't know if you've seen this thread, but it appears we have an accepted birth year for Scott Rudin in the crew table. Nobody can find a second Scott Rudin. It appears to have come from the headshots database. Is there any way you can turn off the accepted status for the birth year for Scott Rudin so that the check box will appear for contributions?
I'll let you know what she says.
She replied that the acceptance of the birth year has been removed on their end.
Problem solved. You might want to PM Jon  and let him know. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,480 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting lyonsden5: Quote:
You might want to PM Jon and let him know. OK. I just did.  And thanks everyone for the support. I appreciate it. | | | ...James
"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,372 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting m.cellophane: Quote:
Quoting lyonsden5:
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You might want to PM Jon and let him know.
OK. I just did.
And thanks everyone for the support. I appreciate it. and multiple  for you James and the way you handled this thread. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting smeehrrr: Quote:
Quoting FUBAR:
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The rules only stipulate that Birth Years are to be used to differentiate actors with the same names. Nothing at all is said about differentiating crew. So the Birth Year for Rudin is fine according to the rules.
Let's look more closely:
Enter birth years only when necessary to differentate between two actors with the same name.
The only in there is quite clear. The birth year can only be used on actors, never on crew, if you read the rule strictly as written. As much as I hate to say it, you are correct. Strictly as written, that is what the rule says. I know that isn't what Ken meant and I have PMed him asking that he correct this error. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,394 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Vega: Quote:
Quoting kdh1949:
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Quoting FUBAR:
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The rules say absolutely nothing about differentiating crew. You can read whatever you want into the rules (but you personally aren't upholding the rules as they are written), but in fact, you or anyone, would be wrong if they voted No to the contribution in question.
I'm confused. Scott Rudin is an actor. What does whether or not we differentiate crew have to do with a need for this actor's BY in the database?
He's a producer, not an actor. Sorry, I got confused. Never mind.  | | | Another Ken (not Ken Cole)
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,917 |
| | Posted: | | | | Everything in the app supports BY for crew - the ability to add/edit/display it and support for it on the XML export.
Maybe we can turn this into a Crew BY discussion thread! |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 1,339 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'd like to see Ken or Gerri post something into this thread... Particulary about how to handle future situations in which this would arise...
I have verified that the BY for Scott Rudin has been switched to unapproved, and as such... have reversed my contributions, including withdrawing pending contributions, and as promised, sending up removal of this from the listed profiles that already contained it.
I have worked all day, and unfortunately have an even longer day tomorrow... So I must sleep... I will post back tomorrow with a few final comments on this issue, as well as to sprinkle some feedback (i ran out for today already) | | | | -JoN | | | | Last edited: by ruineddaydreams |
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