Welcome to the Invelos forums. Please read the forum rules before posting.

Read access to our public forums is open to everyone. To post messages, a free registration is required.

If you have an Invelos account, sign in to post.

    Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Contribution Discussion Page: 1  Previous   Next
How to order Audio tracks?
Author Message
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKvack
Registered: February 18, 2009
Reputation: Superior Rating
Posts: 35
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I have a tool which tells me the audio tracks associated with a disc (although it sometimes gets things wrong, I'm assuming based on how the disc was encoded, like thinking audio is stereo when it is really mono). The tracks are ordered by this tool, but I'm not sure how they determine the order.

When I look at the audio tracks available on the menu, often the commentary track shows up elsewhere and the order of the audio tracks presented in the menu often doesn't match the tool. And sometimes I see tracks listed by the tool which don't show up on the menu.

So, what's the correct order for the audio tracks to be entered? Sometimes I see people updating the audio tracks, and the only change they have made is the order of the audio tracks. Is that a legitimate edit?
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorrdodolak
Registered: March 18, 2007
Reputation: Superior Rating
United States Posts: 1,621
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Yes, it would be based on how their encoded on the disc. The home menus don't always show all tracks that are encoded on the disc either.

The contributions rules do mention "List audio tracks in the order in which they are encoded on the disc"
 Last edited: by rdodolak
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorGSyren
Profiling since 2001
Registered: March 14, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
Sweden Posts: 4,579
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Just FYI, Kvack, MonoCheck is a good tool for finding out if a two-track encoding is actually mono.
My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
Gunnar
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributormreeder50
I was outta bullets
Registered: March 29, 2007
Reputation: Superior Rating
United States Posts: 2,728
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I use MonoCheck a lot.
Marty - Registered July 10, 2004, User since 2002.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorObiKen
Registered: October 22, 2015
Reputation: Highest Rating
Australia Posts: 267
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting GSyren:
Quote:
Just FYI, Kvack, MonoCheck is a good tool for finding out if a two-track encoding is actually mono.

Yes, MonoCheck is a very simple and effective tool for 2.0 audio tracks, however, there is one small caveat when using it.
On Windows 11, make sure "Enable audio enhancements" for the speakers is DISABLED.

To verify the setting on Windows 11, follow the procedure described below:

Press Win + R keys to open the Run Command dialog box.
Type mmsys.cpl and press Enter key.
Select Speakers and click Properties button
Select Advanced tab

In the section titled "Signal Enhancements", make sure "Enable audio enhancements" is DISABLED.

If its enabled then when the audio track is 2.0 mono, MonoCheck may end up displaying false-positives for stereo (that is, the left and right channels may appear non-identical in magnitude and asynchronous in changes).

This is no fault of the MonoCheck program, rather, it accurately reflects the consequences of Microsoft's manipulation of the 2.0 mono track into a pseudo-stereo track.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorrdodolak
Registered: March 18, 2007
Reputation: Superior Rating
United States Posts: 1,621
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I'll have to check out MonoCheck but you can also use Audacity to analyze the audio tracks.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorGSyren
Profiling since 2001
Registered: March 14, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
Sweden Posts: 4,579
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting rdodolak:
Quote:
I'll have to check out MonoCheck but you can also use Audacity to analyze the audio tracks.

I'm sure that there are several audio programs than can analyze audio tracks. But MonoCheck has an advantage. It's created especially for this purpose. It is dirt simple, and it's very small, so you can run it on top of your media player without obscuring anything important.


And ObiKen - many thanks for that info! I was not aware of that.

Edit: I just realized that I made an almost identical comment in the MonoCheck thread last year. I guess I have a one track mind ... 
My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
Gunnar
 Last edited: by GSyren
    Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Contribution Discussion Page: 1  Previous   Next