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It would be helpfull if the Credit Lookup would show the variations found for that lookup in the online DB and its totals:

"David Hyde Pierce" is credited in the following 200 titles (535 profiles):
David Hyde Pierce 11 titles (111 profiles)
David Hyde Pierce 22 titles (222 profiles)
David Hyde Pierce 33 titles (333 profiles)
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Good idea, as long as you still only have to perform one search.
Maybe the results could be sorted under each variant.
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Since the CLT looks at the credited as field, it's impossible to have the CLT report these numbers. Remember that the credited as field isn't split up into first/middle/last name

I don't see what good these results will do either. I might be missing something, so if someone could enlighten me that would be great.

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Since the CLT looks at the credited as field, it's impossible to have the CLT report these numbers. Remember that the credited as field isn't split up into first/middle/last name

I don't see what good these results will do either. I might be missing something, so if someone could enlighten me that would be great.

That's a good point.  Link to Ken saying that.

But if there is no Credited As data submitted what is used in it's place?  And is whatever is used in place of it parsed?
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If you ever noticed while doing cast/crew.... when you add  someone you get the box showing the name with the credited as field already set exactly as the name you chose just in a single field... so even when you don't change the Credited As field... it is still occupied with the name you chose.

See here... where I add Bill Bixby to one of the Incredible Hulk Season set discs...



The Credited As field is automatically entered matching the name. So the field is always filled.. that way the credit look-up tool always uses it.
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The Credited As field is automatically entered matching the name. So the field is always filled.. that way the credit look-up tool always uses it.

Goodguy pointed out to me one time that the field only appears to be always filled. It's really just a visual in the screen that you showed. If you close that box, "Bill Bixby" will not be saved into the "Credited As" field, nor will it be contributed. The "Credited As" field is only physically populated with data if something different than the "Name" is entered and saved.

The CLT looks first to the "Credited As" if one is present. If one is not present, it looks to the "Name" fields.
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OK... not sure how all it works behind what you see (when you contribute... I just knew it showed up... so figured that is how it went through.
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Since the CLT looks at the credited as field, it's impossible to have the CLT report these numbers. Remember that the credited as field isn't split up into first/middle/last name

I don't see what good these results will do either. I might be missing something, so if someone could enlighten me that would be great.


Ken will know if it is feasible. The information is there in the online DB and every record is known with that combination.
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Since the CLT looks at the credited as field, it's impossible to have the CLT report these numbers. Remember that the credited as field isn't split up into first/middle/last name

I don't see what good these results will do either. I might be missing something, so if someone could enlighten me that would be great.


Credit Lookup Tool: main purpose common name
David Hyde Pierce
David Hyde Pierce
David Hyde Pierce
now we have three different names in the online, should only be one.
David Hyde Pierce is clearly the wrong credit (all first name)
leaves the discussion:
David Hyde Pierce
or
David Hyde Pierce
Now you would have to verify every profile (535 in this case) and keep count of these variations. It seems computers are good and faster in doing this then us mortals
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Although something has just occurred to me: parsing isn't a question of using the most popular, like common name is.
So one of those two names is wrong, regardless of how many there are in the database, so maybe that's why we aren't shown the parsing in the CLT results.

Edit: having said that, there is still an argument for showing the different variants, as it will show users that there are problems with some names, so they may check their profiles to make sure they have the right one.
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>8>8 so maybe that's why we aren't shown the parsing in the CLT results. >8>8

If you go on each profile in the list of the Credit Lookup results, it will show you the parsing and the role for that selected title.
I think this will correct in time the accuracy of our online database. The result should become that we are left with 1 credit instead of 3 for the same person or more in other cases.

I've seen credits where it is just a game to credit differently for the fun of it.
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>8>8 so maybe that's why we aren't shown the parsing in the CLT results. >8>8

If you go on each profile in the list of the Credit Lookup results, it will show you the parsing and the role for that selected title.

I know that, but that's only available profile by profile, it's not available as part of the results.
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David Hyde Pierce
im only after the variations of the searched name in the found results of that name, so it would not show up:
David Pierce, this could be a total different person.
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THis would be a great help IMO.

It could be another way for people to find the incorrectly parsed names such as:

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A B C
or
A B C
or
A B C


These badly parsed names are hard to find when they aren't colorized.  I'm often surprised when voting on a change to a profile that's been around a while to see someone has finally caught up with these mistakes.
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Although something has just occurred to me: parsing isn't a question of using the most popular, like common name is.
So one of those two names is wrong, regardless of how many there are in the database, so maybe that's why we aren't shown the parsing in the CLT results.

Exactly, so although "Kirk/B.R./Woller" has more entries than "Kirk/B. R./Woller" in the online database, it doesn't necessarily means that it has been parsed correctly.
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We are several times told to go by the Credit Lookup Tool. Most moviecredits are name/X.Y./name. Making this name/XY/name or name/X. Y./name is personal preference. (Seeing a space, where is none or dropping the Full stop)
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