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Has anybody had experience with Denon equipment.

I am considering buying the

DBP-2010CI: Reference Blu-ray/DVD/CD Player.  and before I put out$700 for it, I want to know if anybody has had any issues with Denon equipment.

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Not in decades, but why Denon?
I would and have bought an OPPO BDP-83 for $499.00.
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Or the Nuforce edition, if you want a really good CD-player.
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Charlie:

Denon is still an excellent machine in any book. BUT, that said give the Oppos a look. What sopecifically are you after in a deck.

But were in the market right now, I would be looking at Oppo. Even at that something to give some consideration to if you are looking now, and don't poo-poo it, is the new 3D standard, and yes i do have thoughts in that area. it's getting to become a very complex market.
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Or the Nuforce edition, if you want a really good CD-player.



The new force edition is more than I want to spend(wife put me on a budget)

Oppo seems very interesting, seems to review very well for  its pricepoint.  I don't know about 3d.  Denon has a 3d reference player coming out (bdp2011 i think).  Oppo is sure to follow soon. 

I am not in a rush, that is only 1 component I am looking at.  I am rebuilding my home theater (actually constructing in basement proper lighting and a popcorn machine included) 

I have my receiver and speakers already.  very happy with my marantz receiver that my wife bought me (needed a replacement, blew out my old one after 8 years).  I am building my own custom speakers so those will not be an issue.  The last 2 items are a good refernce player and a screen.  Still researching


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A screen so you are using a projector. That will actually be a plus in 3D
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A screen so you are using a projector. That will actually be a plus in 3D



I will consider 3D as long as it isn't at the expense of other features.  I like my Audio, it must be sharp and crisp (that is why I build my own speakers)  regular BD video must be sharp and smooth, with proper color presentation.

And in a true movie theater, why would I not use a projector?
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Projector's have their pros and cons particularly with today's LED flat panels. The LEDs will deliver a sharper and crisper picture with far better contrast ratios. BUT they are limited in size unless you have BIG money and I would give the edge to Projectors for 3D work. The flat panels use a technology refered to as Active Shutter in the glasses, the glasses interact with the screen via wireless link and the Active Shutter has the lenses turning on and off at a very fast rate, alternating left right left, etc. faster than you can see it but it's there nonetheless. This technology is not cheap, I think the glasses are about $150 per pair. The projector's from a 3D viewpoint will be able to use glasses very similar to what is used theatrically...much cheaper. I don't know how soon we are going to begin seeing 3D projectors, but it is worth your thinking about it
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Are there even any projectors on the market yet that do 3D?
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A comparative test in the German Video HomeVision magazine gave the edge to Panasonic's plasma-based 3D solution over Samsung's and Sony's LED-LCD 3D screens.

Personally, however, if I were buying now, 3D would not be my primary concern.

Returning to the OP's questions: I have had plenty of good experience with Denon equipment. Always excellent build quality (their better models are really built like a tank), and its machines have always been very reliable for me.
That said, the Oppo BDP-83 is definitely a serious contender. I bought a region-modded 83 last year and have been very happy with it. What gives it the edge over a Denon machine is its lightning speed as well as some fairly unique features such as subtitle shift (useful for non-anamorphic DVDs). Also, Denons are more sensitive to disc faults than the Oppo.

EDIT: is the Marantz receiver you have up-to-date? Can it decode all Hi-Def audio formats as well as DSD (SACD)? In that case going for the standard Oppo would be a no-brainer and also give you SACD and DVD-Audio playback - you could spend some of the money you saved on getting some SACD and DVD-A discs to enjoy high-quality music.
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Some interesting information  Will have to consider.

Oppo my very well be a better choice, considering, my receiver can do all the decoding

@Deejay, my wife bought me the SR6004 that I requested.  It replaced a sherwood that I  had.  The Sherwood was good for the money, but the Marantz blows it out of the water.
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Are there even any projectors on the market yet that do 3D?

Ummm Ace, I think if you re-read my post you might be able to figure out that I answered yiour question BEFORE you asked it. Which leaves me wonderiing WHY you asked.
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Some interesting information  Will have to consider.

Oppo my very well be a better choice, considering, my receiver can do all the decoding

@Deejay, my wife bought me the SR6004 that I requested.  It replaced a sherwood that I  had.  The Sherwood was good for the money, but the Marantz blows it out of the water.


Very nice receiver, congrats! Nice touch: bluetooth!

Since it can decode anything and can do so very well, I wouldn't worry about the audio decoding capabilities of any player you'd be buying, so for instance in case of the Oppo: do NOT invest in the Special Edition with better D/A decoding but go for the standard release and spend your savings on something else. The standard Oppo will combine very well with your receiver - let the Marantz handle the audio and let the Oppo use its superior video upconversion on standard DVD, and you'll be fine!
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Are there even any projectors on the market yet that do 3D?

Ummm Ace, I think if you re-read my post you might be able to figure out that I answered yiour question BEFORE you asked it. Which leaves me wonderiing WHY you asked.


I ask because you could also use active shutter for a projector. You need a specialized screen to do polarized and I'm betting it costs more for the projector as well.
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Has anybody had experience with Denon equipment.

I am considering buying the

DBP-2010CI: Reference Blu-ray/DVD/CD Player.  and before I put out$700 for it, I want to know if anybody has had any issues with Denon equipment.

Charlie


I've owned several of their universal CD / DVD players in the past, and they have always worked great with DVD's great although occasionally do not want to read a CD on first attempt. I think they continue to make excellent players, but imo their current Blu-ray players seem over priced compared to machines like the Oppo or even the Sony PS3
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I worked at an electronic Retailer until just recently and all Denon Products we had in the Hi-Fi Dept, be it Receiver, CD Player or BD Player the were all top notch.. Also not even once was one of those items returned by a customer... That said, one usually can't go wrong with Denon.. (Or Onkyo but they have yet to release a really good BD Player)
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