Welcome to the Invelos forums. Please read the forum rules before posting.

Read access to our public forums is open to everyone. To post messages, a free registration is required.

If you have an Invelos account, sign in to post.

    Invelos Forums->General: General Home Theater Discussion Page: 1 2 3  Previous   Next
Anyone jumped to 4k yet?
Author Message
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributordee1959jay
Registered: March 19, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
Netherlands Posts: 6,014
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
LED is a form of LCD, too - it merely uses a different type of backlighting (LED instead of CCFL), but the basic characteristics are the same.

And within the group of LED-LCD displays there are edge-lit, full-array and local dimming types of LED.
 Last edited: by dee1959jay
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorbbbbb
on steroids
Registered: March 14, 2007
Posts: 5,734
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting SwissFilm:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
can a 4K TV play 3D in normal HD Quality with no upscaling?

Can a 4K TV play 2D in normal HD Quality with no upscaling?

Yes, 4K TV have an upscaling for 2D discs to show them as 4K

But can a 4K TV play 2D in normal HD Quality with no upscaling?
Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect]
 Last edited: by bbbbb
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorcvermeylen
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
Belgium Posts: 1,946
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageDirect link to this postReply with quote
No every frame is upscaled. It is not computer monitor where you can switch resolution. Your TV will always display 3840 x 2140 pixels for any type of content.
View my collection at http://www.chriskepolis.be/home/dvd.htm

Chris
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributordee1959jay
Registered: March 19, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
Netherlands Posts: 6,014
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Without upscaling a full HD signal would only fill a quarter of a 4K screen.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorrdodolak
Registered: March 18, 2007
Reputation: Superior Rating
United States Posts: 1,598
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
If UHD TVs offer a basic upscaling option without interpolation then it should be the same as if no upscaling had taken place.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributordee1959jay
Registered: March 19, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
Netherlands Posts: 6,014
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
For all fellow users interested in a comparison of top-of-the-range OLED vs. LED-LCD screens (and especially for mreeder50), here's an in-depth comparison of the LG EG960V OLED (that's a 9600 in the US and 9609 in Germany) vs. the Samsung 55" JS9000 LED-LCD.

The article in question was written by a UK-based professional in screen calibrations with input from an IT consultant/AV journalist.

Enjoy!
 Last edited: by dee1959jay
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributormreeder50
I was outta bullets
Registered: March 29, 2007
Reputation: Superior Rating
United States Posts: 2,710
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting dee1959jay:
Quote:
For all fellow users...

Thanks, that helps a lot.
Marty - Registered July 10, 2004, User since 2002.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorbbbbb
on steroids
Registered: March 14, 2007
Posts: 5,734
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting cvermeylen:
Quote:
No every frame is upscaled. It is not computer monitor where you can switch resolution. Your TV will always display 3840 x 2140 pixels for any type of content.

Even if I connect that TV (display) with the computer? Small UHD TVs (displays) are much cheaper than big UHD monitors (displays).
Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect]
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorbbbbb
on steroids
Registered: March 14, 2007
Posts: 5,734
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting dee1959jay:
Quote:
Without upscaling a full HD signal would only fill a quarter of a 4K screen.

Rough estimate. But can the 4K TVs play normal HD Quality with no upscaling?
Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect]
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributordee1959jay
Registered: March 19, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
Netherlands Posts: 6,014
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting bbbbb:
Quote:
Quoting cvermeylen:
Quote:
No every frame is upscaled. It is not computer monitor where you can switch resolution. Your TV will always display 3840 x 2140 pixels for any type of content.

Even if I connect that TV (display) with the computer? Small UHD TVs (displays) are much cheaper than big UHD monitors (displays).


Yes.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributordee1959jay
Registered: March 19, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
Netherlands Posts: 6,014
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting bbbbb:
Quote:
Quoting dee1959jay:
Quote:
Without upscaling a full HD signal would only fill a quarter of a 4K screen.

Rough estimate. But can the 4K TVs play normal HD Quality with no upscaling?


That question has already been answered several times.
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantspecise_8472
It wasn't me...
Registered: January 27, 2009
New Zealand Posts: 180
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting cvermeylen:
Quote:
Quoting mreeder50:
Quote:
I know this is something they should provide as part of the installation, but spend the extra money and have the LCD calibrated and all that "artificial, unnatural and washed-out blacks" will go away.


I used calibrated settings from a website. They claim it is indeed TV specific, but if you copy them, in most cases you get up to 95% of the perfect settings. The settings seem to work just fine for me. So I'm not sure if a calibration will make any difference to my eyes.


I use the calibration disks that are available. Currently for HD-BD I use the Spears & Munsil setup disk. Also covers 3D depth setup, which made a big difference. Now waiting on the 4k version when the new 4k players come out next year. Using these disks gives a better picture for my eyes. I find that using 'canned' settings is just setting up to someone else's idea  of what it should look like.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorquietman1965
Registered: June 17, 2012
Spain Posts: 35
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
You are lucky.
If at least we could see Tv with mkv quality it should be great.
Only content seen that way happens in one channel of 40.
Some with avaiable movies
So for me , buying a 4k tv is really useless at these moments.
Happy with my 45" plasma.
    Invelos Forums->General: General Home Theater Discussion Page: 1 2 3  Previous   Next