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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorFunkyLA
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Sad man that I am.... (hey... that rhymes)

I just installed the new beta of Internet Explorer, and boy... is it processor heavy

Also, it "slightly" breaks the site, nothing major, just something for Ken to watch out for.

Just posted this for info

Note, whilst running in IE7 mode, the processor relaxes, and the site is fine
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Thanks for Info and warning! But what's wrong with Firefox? If you need the IE engine for some websites (e.g. sharepoint apps), you can install IE Tab. Works perfect here!
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I never understood why people are so enamoured with Firefox. IE does what it needs to do just fine for me.

I know of the benefits of FF in terms of widgets and supposedly more accurate HTML rendering, but those are features I really don't need. All I need is a program that will show me websites. Period. And not only is IE already included in Windows, it's also faster than FF by a long shot - at least for me.

Oh, I know, FF fans will disagree with me at length on that last one. But all I can tell you is that when I installed FF a year or so ago (maybe longer...) it was extremely slow in loading pages. When researching online, all I kept seeing was how to tweak FF to make it run faster. Blah. I don't want to have to bother with that stuff, so I uninstalled it and went back to IE and I'm much happier for it.

As for the HTML rendering... okay, so maybe once in a blue moon when using IE an image won't be positioned exactly where the webmaster wanted it. Maybe a cell in a table is bigger or smaller than intended. So what? It's extremely rare that I notice anything funky, so it can't be that big of a difference.

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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorRander
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I never understood why people are so enamoured with Firefox. IE does what it needs to do just fine for me.
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I can't really disagree with you on any of this - but it seems to me that you're missing an - if not THE most - important thing, which is security!

Sure, FF has had it's share of security-related bugs. No where near the amount IE has had, but then again, IE has been out quite a while longer - but still, I run FF mostly for the security I get...

Also, when I started using FF some years ago, tabbed browsing was still only a dream in IE, and in FF, it's a dream to use... 
The future is here. It's just not widely distributed yet. (William Gibson)
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I never understood why people are so enamoured with Firefox. IE does what it needs to do just fine for me.
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I can't really disagree with you on any of this - but it seems to me that you're missing an - if not THE most - important thing, which is security!

Sure, FF has had it's share of security-related bugs. No where near the amount IE has had, but then again, IE has been out quite a while longer - but still, I run FF mostly for the security I get...

Also, when I started using FF some years ago, tabbed browsing was still only a dream in IE, and in FF, it's a dream to use... 

If you're using FF only for security reasons you should switch over to Opera as soon as possible. Known security leaks get fixed within the hour.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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I never understood why people are so enamoured with Firefox. IE does what it needs to do just fine for me.
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I can't really disagree with you on any of this - but it seems to me that you're missing an - if not THE most - important thing, which is security!

Sure, FF has had it's share of security-related bugs. No where near the amount IE has had, but then again, IE has been out quite a while longer - but still, I run FF mostly for the security I get...

Also, when I started using FF some years ago, tabbed browsing was still only a dream in IE, and in FF, it's a dream to use... 

If you're using FF only for security reasons you should switch over to Opera as soon as possible. Known security leaks get fixed within the hour.


Opera is payware/adware isn't it?

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Not any more since version 8.50
Next time I will use google before posting 

note to myself:

Thorsten
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If you're using FF only for security reasons you should switch over to Opera as soon as possible. Known security leaks get fixed within the hour.

I know... And in fact, I tried Opera. I forced myself to use it as my primary browser for about 2 months, and I ended up hating it. It wasn't just minor annoyances, it was major hatred issues! When I needed to change a setting, it took me half the afternoon to find it. I never got my digital signature to work (in Denmark, you can have a government-issued digital signature to identify yourself on a bunch of government websites, so you can do your taxes directly online, sign and/or encrypt email to government offices and a bunch of other stuff), it seemed slooow (I have a 25/25 Mbit line, and it seemed like a 56K modem)...

All in all, I never really understood the hype about Opera. To me, it was everything but user-friendly. So, I switched to Firefox - or rather, Firefox hadn't been released as a stand-alone application at that time, so I ran the Mozilla Suite, but kept Eudora for email and Fort√© Agent for newsgroups. The last two was junked about a year ago. Eudora became too bloated and Agent just got less and less intuitive with each new version, so Thunderbird took over for all my emailing and newsgroups needs. After a month feeling my way around it, I slapped myself for not switching before... 

But then, that's me! Other people may have other needs and other habits that just doesn't suit these programs, and so they use the program that suit their needs and habits - except when it comes to cataloging DVDs, then there really is no alternative...     
The future is here. It's just not widely distributed yet. (William Gibson)
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Since I moved to an iMac a few weks ago (for private use), I use Safari and I love it (just like all the other OS X stuff). Just for the records: there are no issus with the Invelos site in Safari 

BTW: DVDP so far is the last and only program I need a Vista VM for. For everything else I made the transition to OSX and am totally happy 
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If you're using FF only for security reasons you should switch over to Opera as soon as possible. Known security leaks get fixed within the hour.

I know... And in fact, I tried Opera. I forced myself to use it as my primary browser for about 2 months, and I ended up hating it. It wasn't just minor annoyances, it was major hatred issues! When I needed to change a setting, it took me half the afternoon to find it. I never got my digital signature to work (in Denmark, you can have a government-issued digital signature to identify yourself on a bunch of government websites, so you can do your taxes directly online, sign and/or encrypt email to government offices and a bunch of other stuff), it seemed slooow (I have a 25/25 Mbit line, and it seemed like a 56K modem)...


Best browser out there. Been using it for years so maby thats why i dont find it difficult to use. But e.g. my little sister just few days ago (who knows little to nothing about computers) got an iMac, took her one day to say that she hates Safari and wants Opera back

Btw, what is that digital signature? Here we use online bank numbers (that have Lock & Key numbers) which can be used on many other sites as a digital signature.
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I use FireFox a lot, but I recently had issues with it. It slowed down to a crawl and images were not even loading for sites...or very slowly if they did. It wasn't my network or connection, as the sites loaded fine in IE 7 and Opera. I had to replace the Firefox user profile three times before it sorted out and didn't reoccur, and it was a royal headache. I think I'll start using Opera a little more now...
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Btw, what is that digital signature? Here we use online bank numbers (that have Lock & Key numbers) which can be used on many other sites as a digital signature.

Well, basically, it's kind of like a PGP-key. When you order it (online), you get a snailmail with a URL and a code you need to install it. When it is installed, it stores itself as a cryptographic API in Windows, so when you choose to login to a website with it, the API handles the security-check in regards to asking you for your password and reporting the result to the website.

In effect, the key is a locally stored PKCS#12 file, and the government then have their own public LDAP-server to look up adresses that support digital signature signing and encryption. When you are issued a digital signature, the public part of your key are automatically stored on this server. The LDAP-server does not support wildcard-searching, as to deter email-harvesters...

I have an online bank-number too, but here, the login-procedure is handled by a Java-object along with a ActiveX-object, I believe. It is still by key-file and password.

When I am not at home and have access to the keyfile, I can enter another user-ID, and then I have a keycard - like a small calculator, except it needs a PIN to power on, and it then gives me a numeric password that is valid for only 2-3 minutes. When I have logged in, if I want to transfer money, the site then gives me a request-code. I then type that in to the keycard, and it gives me a confirmation code to enter - again, this is only valid for 2-3 minutes...
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I never understood why people are so enamoured with Firefox. IE does what it needs to do just fine for me.


I've always used the browser that best serves my needs. Back in the days of Netscape 3 I used the Netscape Communicator 3 Gold. Then IE 4, 5 & 6 and then I switched to Mozilla 1. After that to Firefox 1.

Why the Mozilla line? because they had features I wanted to use and IE didn't have. Such as Tabbed Browsing and Plugins.

Currently I am using Firefox 2 and some very useful Plugins- both on my Windows machine as well as my MacMini.

I am not really biased to any of the computer fractions, I am neither a Microsoftie nor a Macian nor do I worship Open Source.
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I've never been too trusting of IE so I use Firefox for all sites except those who require IE for it's specific bugs, ahem, features in order to work.

They call it "IEEEEEE" for a reason ya know.

So far, Firefox has worked like a charm for me.  The only thing I wish it did like IE does is to sort the URL history by last use - ie: select an URL in IE from the URL location bar dropdown and it moves to the top of the list.  It doesn't in Firefox.
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So far, Firefox has worked like a charm for me.  The only thing I wish it did like IE does is to sort the URL history by last use - ie: select an URL in IE from the URL location bar dropdown and it moves to the top of the list.  It doesn't in Firefox.

Firefox uses the "most used", not the "most recent used".

E.g. when I enter "en." it shows me the most used Wikipedia links I opened recently. Currently my top entry for "en." is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Angel_episodes followed by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_SG-1

I like it that way, but you are right they could make it a setting.
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I've tried IE, Firefox and Opera over the years, and Opera has become my favourite by far. Not only is it the safest browser by far, it was also the first to introduce tabbed browsing, when your computer crashes all you have to do is fire up Opera again and find yourself right where you were (including the pages you visited before), it can be voice controlled (for all RSI patients out there), it will do RSS feeds, has widgets, mouse gestures etc. etc. It is also highly customisable - once you've worked out how to do that, you can make it look exactly the way you want it to. And all this without the plugins that Firefox requires. It is for good reasons that Opera is becoming so popular on mobile devices and Wii!

Moreover they're a sympathetic lot over there in Norway. A couple of years ago, when Micro$oft deliberately made it impossible to view MSN with Opera, how did Opera respond? Not by hiring a battery of lawyers, but by issuing a special version of Opera (called Opera Bork - named after the Swedish chef from the Muppets) which automatically translated all MSN pages into Bork.      They surely embarrassed Micro$oft!
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Firefox uses the "most used", not the "most recent used".

E.g. when I enter "en." it shows me the most used Wikipedia links I opened recently. Currently my top entry for "en." is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Angel_episodes followed by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_SG-1

I like it that way, but you are right they could make it a setting.

I'm referring to the dropdown URL list.  The invelos URL is one of the most used ones and yet it is at the bottom of the dropdown.
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