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Invelos Software, Inc. RepresentativeKen Cole
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Very important update.

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If you elect to view these changes, you can also choose to specifically accept the name changes on a case-by-case basis.

For BYs either?


Yes.
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If you elect to view these changes, you can also choose to specifically accept the name changes on a case-by-case basis.

Can you decline those inglorious, huge lists of Uncredited German Voices in the Cast section of Hollywood blockbusters?
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If you elect to view these changes, you can also choose to specifically accept the name changes on a case-by-case basis.

Can you decline those inglorious, huge lists of Uncredited German Voices in the Cast section of Hollywood blockbusters?


I believe you can, and you can also decline the incorrect copy and paste cast and crew, the additional crew listed under a Additional Visual Effects by header also.
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If you elect to view these changes, you can also choose to specifically accept the name changes on a case-by-case basis.

Can you decline those inglorious, huge lists of Uncredited German Voices in the Cast section of Hollywood blockbusters?

I believe you can

If you can deselect the uncredited German voice "Cast", do you have to deselect each of those fake entries one by one?

And then, with updates to the real, the credited Cast: do you have to deselect the German fake entries again and again one by one?
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If you elect to view these changes, you can also choose to specifically accept the name changes on a case-by-case basis.

Can you decline those inglorious, huge lists of Uncredited German Voices in the Cast section of Hollywood blockbusters?

I believe you can

If you can deselect the uncredited German voice "Cast", do you have to deselect each of those fake entries one by one?

And then, with updates to the real, the credited Cast: do you have to deselect the German fake entries again and again one by one?



would be nice if you could highlight a group to either accept or decline.
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If you can deselect the uncredited German voice "Cast", do you have to deselect each of those fake entries one by one?

And then, with updates to the real, the credited Cast: do you have to deselect the German fake entries again and again one by one?

would be nice if you could highlight a group to either accept or decline.

The uncredited local German fake voice entries should not be contributed at all, or at least be separated from the real credited film Cast.
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The dubbing 'foreign' language cast list may merit its own discussion in the 'feature requests' forum.

That said, it is only fake if there is no such language track on the disk. The contributor has been sloppy in copying from an earlier approved profile.

Side note: Film distributors have a habit of showing this voice cast list for another language only at the closing credits if the movie was shown with the appropriate 'foreign' language selected. So it may not show in the USA, viewing it in English (*). But it is definitely on the disk. Note it may apply as well to region 1 / region A disks to facilitate major language minorities like Spanish and French (also to use the same disk pressing for distribution to neighbouring countries).
One could argue that for such disks, the contributor has not completed a full audit if the voice cast list for those languages is not added to the profile's cast  .

BTW, Happy 2017 !

(*) If English is the original language.
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it is only fake if there is no such language track on the disk.

Audio track [selection] does not matter, if the "Cast" is not from the credits but from external textual notes only it is always fake.
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Audio track [selection] does not matter, if the "Cast" is not from the credits but from external textual notes only it is always fake.


A disc can be set to play different credits depending on your audio track selection. Also, credits weren't really standardized as part of the film for a while. I'd say any documentation provided with the release is good, even if it's not a proper credits sequence.
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Audio track [selection] does not matter, if the "Cast" is not from the credits but from external textual notes only it is always fake.


A disc can be set to play different credits depending on your audio track selection. Also, credits weren't really standardized as part of the film for a while. I'd say any documentation provided with the release is good, even if it's not a proper credits sequence.

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Audio track [selection] does not matter, if the "Cast" is not from the credits but from external textual notes only it is always fake.

A disc can be set to play different credits depending on your audio track selection.

May be, but we are not talking about credits, we are talking about extra textual notes.

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Credits from anywhere? Anarchy! I'm with it.

No, wait, the extra textual notes about the French, the Italian, and the other audio track dubbers are not allowed. Why?

Nationalism!

No, wait, Invelos damage control.

For another dumb German exception rule. 20 Uncredited German people as additional "Cast" are bad enough. But 60 and more of those Uncredited people? Too ridiculous! Even for a German profile of a film.
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Cool... anther nice update! I like this one!

Here is hoping supper is not too late. It is never good to keep a fat man waiting for food!   


Well basically another month has passed... this fat man is getting hungry!     
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Well I believe Ken's last post was in this thread, so he is probably steeped in the complexities of delivering the new Beta, or has other priorities. I hope for the best (there are not many things that will take an entrepreneur completely away from his business - let's hope it is all good).
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While I applaud the ability to keep unwanted parsing or capitalization changes out of my local database, it would be a lot better if the software actually dared to make a choice on these matters. For instance: if we can't get the international userbase to agree on "correct" parsing, if there are no rules about it, and if the various cultural backgrounds of the users will ensure that different people will treat the same names differently, then why does the program insist on storing names in a format where the users must even make that parsing choice? Trying to "lessen the impact" of such changes is one thing - but eliminating the problem altogether would be preferable, IMHO.

In the set-up that we were shown in this thread, it seems DVD Profiler happily keeps accepting such changes where contributions are concerned, yet you try to lessen their impact at the other end, at the point where the accepted contribution is being offered to the users as an updated profile. I really don't understand that mixed approach: if DVD Profiler is so wary of such changes when it comes to accepting profile updates, then why isn't it wary of them during the contribution process? There, ping-ponging parsing changes aren't even shown, and capitalization changes are often (incorrectly!) dismissed in the contribution notes as "done by Invelos". Again, if you're critical of these type of changes, then why only address them at the very end of the process, when the update is trickling down to the users, but not when those changes are actually contributed?

As a frequent contributor, that's exactly one the issues I regularly run into. I want to contribute a cast correction to a profile, but the capitalization of the name of another cast member in the same profile in my local database differs from the capitalization in the online database. I can ignore that change, and that change may be ignored when someone accepts the update into his database later on, but the change does show up on the evaluation screen - resulting in certain users voting such a contribution down citing incorrect capitalization. Will such votes be consistently ignored when this approach is implemented? Will "don't worry, it won't impact your local database" be a valid reply? That's the problem that I have with this approach where these changes are only addressed at the very end of the contribution process, but not at the start of it.

Bottom line: it's nice to be asked whether I want to accept a certain change, but it would be great if I'd also be asked whether I want to contribute such a change in the first place.
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Waiting for the new beta version, hoping that will fix a problem with a contribution of an alternate version!
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Still nothing? This is getting annoying....

Man i love this program so freaking much and it's the first PC Program that i bought for such a high price online and i bought it even twice on mobile, Android and iOS but this slow updates are hurting the DVD Profiler more then they help it.

This whole thing could be so much more polished, but sometimes i have the feeling we still have 2006 when i look at it.

Please start the beta soon and let us help you.
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